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Your rhetoric notwithstanding (Ossiah/Bush - because D's are vile tricksters and R's can tell no lies), I think we might actually agree.

Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff What amazes me is how the media and certain politicians crapped little green apples over water boarding known terrorists which didn't hurt anyone yet they basically ignore even US citizens being assassinated by drones. Which media would that be - the New...

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/07/us/politics/obama-orders-release-of-drone-memos-to-lawmakers.html?_r=0

I'm not sure I understand how one can draw scientific conclusions from such a small statistical sample. Far too many unaddressed variables to arrive at that conclusion with any certitude. It's impossible to agree or disagree - the article employs the logical falacy of: correlation = causation.

Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff If I am properly compensated. Besides in this area it isn't going to make a difference. We have enough naturally occurring radioactive material in the ground many houses have to have special vents to keep radon gas from building up. I guess we should sue...

Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff EVERYTHING HAS TO BE CUT. SS and Medicare will have to be cut BUT we should start with the BS and wasteful garbage first. It isn't going to make a huge difference but it sends the right message about where our priorities are. Unfortunately. We the people...

Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff There is no ban of DU weapons I am aware of and the WHO has found none of the claimed effects. We invaded Iraq for invading Kuwait. Iraq agreed to numerous conditions as part of the cease fire. They violated said conditions on numerous occasions. That gave...

Quote: Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/du.html "I am not claiming to be sure that DU is not harmful. We found out that even sugar kills, so it may well be that DU also kills. But, so far, I have seen no scientific or statistical evidence that DU is more...

I'm not attempting to be an apologist, I'm simply looking for logical constistency and failing to find it.

Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff The whole idea of the conventions was to prevent POW's and civilians from being mistreated. If you want the protections for your people you must adhere to the rules yourself. Someone who purposely targets civilians is a terrorist, period. I really don't get...

Ok, so the determining factor for us then is that, because it is not prohibited under international law (ironic reference, but ok), it is therefore, allowed, correct? Palestine, not being a recognized nation, is unable to be a signatory to the conventions. By that same logic, they are therefore...

Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff You need to put down the crack pipe and re read them. To gain and retain the protection combatants must follow the rules of war. Ad Hominem aside, let's assume I've interpreted the Conventions incorrectly. So, let me get this straight. If, so called, enemy...

Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff You should read the conventions. The requirement of following the rules of war is what grants combatants the protections. So, a number of our presidents and secretaries of defence and state are, by this definition, war criminals. I've read the conventions...

Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff Universal health care would be a disaster not just for the US but the world. All the advances in medicine we create would be greatly decreased if not for the profit factor. The conventions were designed specifically to ensure everyone followed the rules. To...

Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff 2. Gun control doesn't work for 2 reasons. 1 There are already millions of guns in circulation and it would take a violation of our constitutional rights to try to make a serious dent in the numbers 2 Being a basically free society it would be next to...

Is mitigation the best we can do? We need to ask some questions about our society. 1) What is different about our society vs, for example, Switzerland, where gun ownership is mandatory, that the gun related homicide rate is extremely disproportionate on the American side. 2) Why does "Gun...

Quote: Originally Posted by Darthtang AW What has prevented you from doing this very thing? Those to whom the issue is material haven't asked me to leave just yet.

Quote: By the way, I'm not interested in saving lives by minimizing the number of deaths. I'd much rather see these acts not committed in the first place. To do otherwise would be like saying that "Columbine wasn't so bad because at least it was only 15 students that time instead of 26." I...

I had a discussion with a friend yesterday about the Newtown catastrophe. He favors better mental health care, yet also believes that medications are part of the problem. I quite agree on both counts. My preference was that more thorough background checks on gun sales would help as 40% of sales...

Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff Know anyone who has taught school for more than 25 years or so? They could explain it to you. Questioning authority isn't an issue. It's how you do it. As a matter of fact, both my parents were career teachers and I spent a part of my life teaching as well...