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  1. uneverno

    US Aid to Israel or Not?

    Quote: Originally Posted by Darthtang AW So you are willing to give up your home and land to Native Americans and move back to your Europe? Yes, if that's what it takes, I am. There are two paths to world peace: 1) Kill all who disagree with you 2) Learn to share
  2. uneverno

    27 dead at Connecticut Elementary School

    At what point do we arrive at the conclusion that regulation is unnecessary, the problem is certain to fix itself?
  3. uneverno

    27 dead at Connecticut Elementary School

    Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff The bev didn't live in a leave it to beaver world but watch some of those 50's and 60's TV shows and you can see how far down the toilet our culture has gone. When kids are not taught to have any respect for authority and see that in a great many cases there...
  4. uneverno

    US Aid to Israel or Not?

    Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff The "disputed land" are areas Israel took over as a result of war. Hardly comparable to Russia invading Alaska. A lot of Mexicans consider parts of the Southwestern US part of Mexico. You be OK if they started lobbing rockets into San Diego to get "their"...
  5. uneverno

    US Aid to Israel or Not?

    To hold a people accountable to standards which we routinely violate ourselves is the essence of both injustice and hypocrisy.
  6. uneverno

    US Aid to Israel or Not?

    Quote: Originally Posted by uneverno No, I think the proper action is not to build on disputed land in the first place. To do so is an act of aggression. The response to the action is an act of desperation - the Palestinians have no legal recourse. They are not a recognized nation, therefore...
  7. uneverno

    US Aid to Israel or Not?

    Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff The difference is in modern times the world countries got together and created rules of war countries are expected to adhere to. Among them is how you treat POW's, Not targeting non combatants etc. The United States has granted the protection to terrorists...
  8. uneverno

    US Aid to Israel or Not?

    Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff What year did the "enlightened" nations of the earth come together and create the accepted rules of war again? How is that a material question? If those who signed on actually did what they, themselves, outlined, we could have a discussion. The fact of the...
  9. uneverno

    US Aid to Israel or Not?

    Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff The Palestinians "fighters" purposely hide their stuff in residential areas and at the same time target residential areas. You can make all the excuses you want but they are nothing but terrorists plain and simple. Ok, I'll buy that. In exactly the same way...
  10. uneverno

    This is why I H A T E partisan politics...

    Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff Ishmael Exactly. A character in various Semitic mythologies - Babylonian, Minoan and Hebraic. Of different significance depending on which viewpoint one takes.
  11. uneverno

    This is why I H A T E partisan politics...

    Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff Separated by moses and aaron? Yes. Read your history. Why did Aaron disappear from the bible? Because he picked the wrong side. It goes back further than that to Jacob and Isaac or Cain and Abel, but those stories make even less sense. "The greatest spoil of...
  12. uneverno

    This is why I H A T E partisan politics...

    Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff Don't know, Isn't relevant to the discussion. Flower would probably know the answer if it's in the scriptures. What you're describing is essentially sharia law. Or pentateuch law. Islam and Judaism are, after all, the same religion separated by Moses and...
  13. uneverno

    This is why I H A T E partisan politics...

    Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff Deuteronomy 24:5 When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give [it] in her hand, and send her out...
  14. uneverno

    US Aid to Israel or Not?

    Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff I will never side with anyone who purposely targets women and kids. Now if Israel has been doing that I wouldn't support them either. One has to bear in mind that "purposely" is a relative term. Israeli weapons are either designed by us and improved upon by...
  15. uneverno

    This is why I H A T E partisan politics...

    Quote: Originally Posted by stdreb27 Why? You can mock it all you want, but why? I'm simply pointing out that we've made it legal to kill millions upon millions of kids, who couldn't do a dang thing to stop it... Roe vs wade has ended more people's lives than hitler ever did... I'm just...
  16. uneverno

    This is why I H A T E partisan politics...

    Quote: Originally Posted by stdreb27 there is nothing common sense about calling killing babies a woman's right to choose. hell at least the jews could fight back when hitler rounded them up... Wow. That might just be the most asinine thing I've ever heard anyone say. Tell the children who...
  17. uneverno

    This is why I H A T E partisan politics...

    Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff Rove said they were calling the state when 0bama had a tiny margin over Romney and he was correct about that. The people at the Fox decision desk actually came on air to discuss how they made the call and even agreed that Rove had a point but based on their...
  18. uneverno

    This is why I H A T E partisan politics...

    Quote: Originally Posted by Darthtang AW Isn't. Murder a moral decision? Isn't spanking or slapping a child in diclscipline a moral decision? Isn't hitting a woman, even if she is hitting you a moral decision? Isn't dictating an employer can't hire people based off race a moral decision? All...
  19. uneverno

    This is why I H A T E partisan politics...

    Quote: Originally Posted by reefraff Did you watch Rove on election night or did someone tell you he had a melt down? I watched it. He made a great point and was in complete control. So Ryan's a kook for accurately saying 0bama led workers at the Wisconsin plant to believe the bailouts would...
  20. uneverno

    This is why I H A T E partisan politics...

    Quote: Originally Posted by stdreb27 oops Scott Walker. (brown was the guy who got Ted Kennedy's perennial seat) So, Rove antics last month, are what made him a kook, by saying they called Ohio too soon? (fine, Karl did melt down a little bit) And this story...
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