135 gal stage Two

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savage21

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Squidd,
Can i do a search the same way i found these to get the ones you are talking about?
 
squidd

squidd

Active Member
Hello
...Lights can be found easily enough on the net..
There's a "hint" in here "somewhere"...:D
:thinking:
 
mbowker

mbowker

Member
search MHRetro lightkit. I just bout my 3 250 Watt Retro system for 324.00 including blbs. Email me and ill send the link
 
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savage21

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One piece unit what do you think ?
CF_Ballast: Optional
Fans: Optional
MH_Ballast1: 250W Advance (M58) #61-30250 (+$47)
MH_Ballast2: 250W Advance (M58) #61-30250 (+$47)
MH_Ballast3: Optional
VHO_Ballast: 2 Lamp ARO Model 4L #41-41001 (+$135)
CF_Bulbs: Optional
MH_Bulb1: 175W 20,000K XM 21-17520(+$59)
MH_Bulb2: Select
MH_Bulb3: Optional
MH_Socket1(w/bracket): Standard Mogul #61-61025 (+$8)
MH_Socket2(w/bracket): Standard Mogul #61-61025 (+$8)
MH_Socket3(w/bracket): Optional
Power_Cord1: Grounded Power Cord #66-66001(+$3)
Power_Cord2: Grounded Power Cord #66-66001(+$3)
Power_Cord3: Optional
Reflector: 60 Inch #64-64060 (+$59)
Shipping: Additional Oversize Charge(+$39.95)
VHO_Bulb1: 60 Inch Coralife 140W Trichromatic 6,500K #11-54014 (+$35.95)
VHO_Bulb2: 60 Inch URI 140W 50/50 Actinic White #12-59-ATW-V (+$34.95) 489.80 489.80
Subtotal : 489.80
 
squidd

squidd

Active Member
Your getting close...But....
You have listed (2) 250 watt ballasts and only (1) 175 watt bulb...??
:thinking: :hilarious
 
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savage21

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Squidd What about now
CF_Ballast: Optional
Fans: TWO 3 inch #63-63001 (+$55)
MH_Ballast1: 400W Advance (M59) #61-30450 (+$53)
MH_Ballast2: 400W Advance (M59) #61-30450 (+$53)
MH_Ballast3: Optional
VHO_Ballast: 2 Lamp ARO Model 4L #41-41001 (+$135)
CF_Bulbs: Optional
MH_Bulb1: 400W 20,000K XM 23-40020(+$69)
MH_Bulb2: 400W 20,000K XM 23-40020(+$69)
MH_Bulb3: Optional
MH_Socket1(w/bracket): Standard Mogul #61-61025 (+$8)
MH_Socket2(w/bracket): Standard Mogul #61-61025 (+$8)
MH_Socket3(w/bracket): Optional
Power_Cord1: Grounded Power Cord #66-66001(+$3)
Power_Cord2: Grounded Power Cord #66-66001(+$3)
Power_Cord3: Optional
Reflector: 72 Inch #64-64070 (+$70)
Shipping: Additional Oversize Charge(+$39.95)
VHO_Bulb1: 72 Inch 50/50 Actinic White URI #12-72-ATW-V (+$39.95)
VHO_Bulb2: 72 Inch Super Actinic Coralife #10-54024 (+$39.95) 655.80 655.80
Subtotal for 655.80
 
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savage21

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How many total watts will i have not sure what the VHO are:confused: Are the bulb type right? and in time will I be able to keep anything in there:confused:
 
toddg

toddg

New Member

Originally posted by Squidd
Hello
...Lights can be found easily enough on the net..
There's a "hint" in here "somewhere"...:D
:thinking:

Squidd, I am looking for lights as well. It took me a second but I found the 'hint'. Thanks.
Todd
 
mary

mary

Member
Am sure all of you will not believe this but: Two aquaintences that I know very well have two of the most incredible tanks with every kind of coral, hard, soft, stoney, and they have power compacts with no additional MH's. I beg to differ on the price of MH"s. They are much more expensive than any other system and for many cause major heating problems which of course you then need to purchase a very expensive chiller . I just ordered a power compact system which works very well for others who have great success. Cetainly hope I do. There are many more reasons for major successes other than just lighting, but it is a biggy! At the moment I am fighting phosphate and nitrate problems on other of these forums, so that hopefully will be taken care of as time passes as I undertake the necessary changes. A change in MH's when they burn out is another much larger expense than a bulbs for the compacts. Of course I don't know that MH"s can't be bought wholesale either. I will admit there is one very important thing I don't know, because several people have told me that MH last much longer than any other light. If that is so, then in the long run, it would be a better way to go than any other, if you want to have some of the more difficult anemones and such. Maybe they can. It really depends on your budget and what you can afford to maintain. If I had 600.00 dollars I probably still woould have gone with the compact because how do I know if when the MH burned out, I would have enough to cover the cost. Rather go with something I know I can afford any given time. Good luck!
 
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savage21

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48" 400 Watt dual custom retro
Ballast Choice (2)CV 400w Electronic
- Fans (2) 60 CFM 27 dBA Fans
- MH Bulb Choice (2)XM 20,000k
- Moonlights None
- Reflector Choice 46.5 x 10 in.
- T-5 Add-On None
- VHO Add-On (2)46.5 or 48 in. URI Super Actinic
$552.00
Will that work for a 72" tank ?
 
badkharma

badkharma

Member
Your fish list is partially incompatible with your reef. Both the Koran angel and puffer are not reef safe. The Koran will eventually grow to over 12". A juvenile Koran will be fine in that size tank for awhile, but forget adding any corals - he'll most likely nip at them. I have a Koran, and I had a small colony of zoos and shrooms on some LR as hitchhikers. They were soon gone as I watched my juvie Koran eat away at them over the course of a few days. Your puffer will most likely consume almost any invert - shrimp, crabs, snails, etc. possibly along with the coral. So you gotta pick one or the other - reef or non-reef. Diamond gobies require a sand bed to sift thru, so make sure it's at least 1.5" deep if you're not doing a DSB. Also, Bangaii's like to be in mated pairs rather than alone. When you go find one, see if you can buy a pair. They never really move much anyway - they hover and look cool doing it. :) And it's been said before, anemones require a mature tank and will have better odds with MH lighting. Yes it's been done with VHO, and been done successfully, but that doesn't mean it's the best equipment for the animal's needs. Good luck!! :happyfish :joy:
 
mary

mary

Member
Benghai's also mate readily. While I had mine they mated many times and what was not consumed by the tankmates went down the flow pipes into the sump and thrived until 4-5 months where-by I sold them to the LFS or made trades for food and such. They are very cool fish. I sold them back however, when I was unable to keep peppermint shrimp. It seems they eat at night small peppermints. I am sure I will get flack for this but I haven't lost one since selling them back, but, I miss their uniqueness. Our LFS owner told me they had witnessed a shrimp being taken by one so then I realized where my shrimp were going. . I kept buying, and they kept disappearing. Not anymore. Badkharma, Yes, I agree halide lighting is certainly better for anemones. :)
 
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savage21

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BAD, MARY
The puffer will go and the koran I just liked the colors of them i can trade them in on something and replace them with more colorful fish that are reef safe :) I dont want a full blown reef at this point just the easy stuff for starter that looks pretty and in time get the anom. so what do you think about the lighting:confused:
 
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savage21

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ok
just got my 800 watts of MH lighting. I am running one 400 watt for 2 hrs the other one 4 hrs, all off at 9 pm then the cycle starts over at 10 am. is this ok to break the tank in :confused: so i dont have a bloom on my hands:notsure: this is the only lighting i have at the time. and when should i bump up the hrs. and at what intervals:notsure: :nervous: i dont want a algeeeee bloom:)
BTW it is 10k lights
 
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