2 1/2 weeks! This can't be right!

barracuda

Active Member
That's good bradttu,
can you post me how did you cycle your tank (except that shrimp). Do you have live sand, live rock???
 

tyr-sog

Member
Will adding more live rock from a lfs at this point interrupt the cycle at this stage?
FYI, I have a 46gal bowfront, 80lbs of LS and 40 Lbs of LR. I added some cleanup critters about a week ago and non parished.
Also, at this point is this a good time to go with a skimmer? I'm thinking about pairing my TetraTec filter(I know, I know) with a Prizem skimmer for filteration along with my powerhead for circulation.
 

barracuda

Active Member
Tyr-Sog,
what are your readings for Ammonia, nitrite and nitrate?
I wouldn't add clean up crew if your tank is still cycling.
 

barracuda

Active Member

Originally posted by Tyr-Sog
Also, at this point is this a good time to go with a skimmer?

Skimmer won't hurt the cycling process, but it won't skimm nothing yet.
 

bradttu

Member
Sure I can! I added 60 pounds of CaribSea, Arag-Alive LS and 40 pounds of LR. I turned on my powerfilter, and protein skimmer, set my lights for 11 hours on and 13 off. That's it!!
 

tyr-sog

Member

Originally posted by Barracuda
Tyr-Sog,
what are your readings for Ammonia, nitrite and nitrate?
I wouldn't add clean up crew if your tank is still cycling.


I just tested.
Ammonia- 0
Nitrate- 5
Nitrite- 0
PH- 8.4
Tempature 78
 

barracuda

Active Member

Originally posted by bradttu
Sure I can! I added 60 pounds of CaribSea, Arag-Alive LS and 40 pounds of LR. I turned on my powerfilter, and protein skimmer, set my lights for 11 hours on and 13 off. That's it!!

From what i see, you did it well. If you won't initiate another cycle (just to make sure the first was successful) at least add livestock slowly and monitor levels.
Good luck!!!
 

barracuda

Active Member

Originally posted by Tyr-Sog
I just tested.
Ammonia- 0
Nitrate- 5
Nitrite- 0
PH- 8.4
Tempature 78

According to your readings you have completed cycling too. Try to add the rest of LR that you wanted to add and minitor levels.
 

tyr-sog

Member

Originally posted by Barracuda
According to your readings you have completed cycling too. Try to add the rest of LR that you wanted to add and minitor levels.


Cool, thanks for the help./
 

dmill15

Member
Barracuda,
You asked earlier what kind of test kit I had it is an Aquarium Pharmaceuticals saltwater masters. Just re-checked everything again and nothing has changed. So I guess I will try and get more rock this weekend probably some more Natures Ocean too. And get the clean up crew next weekend.
Dave
 

reef fool

Active Member
Quote by Dmill15: You asked earlier what kind of test kit I had it is an Aquarium Pharmaceuticals saltwater masters. Just re-checked everything again and nothing has changed.
Make sure you follow the nitrate test instructions to the T. There is alot of vigorous shaking and waiting involved in the test. If it is not done correctly you will have a lower reading than what is present.
Happened to me once. I knew something was wrong, but all my tests were good, so I brought some water to the LFS and the nitrates were 40ppm. They tested 10ppm with that kit! He used a Salifert kit.
Not saying that your nitrates are wong, just be specific to the instructions when testing. I guess I wasn't shaking long enough or waiting long enough. Either way, it was a mess.
Good Luck, Frank
 

dmill15

Member
Yea! This test set is a pain in the @$$!!! I want to get a new one but I just got this one and I could spend $30 on more rock or sand. What should the alk and calcium levels be? And what is a good test kit and suppliments to get for them?
Dave
 

barracuda

Active Member
Alk 7-12 dKH (3.2 - 4.2 meq/l), Ca best at 450 ppm.
Get Salifert or Tropic Marin test kits. They are very precise.
As for suppliments.....a lot of them on the market. I suggest you to do a research on that.
 

reef fool

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As I said before, if you are in doubt, take some water to your LFS and ask them to test it and compare.
Salifert kits are the best. SWF.com has good prices on these kits. I bought all Salifert and did away with my AQ. Pharm. Kit.
I use B-Ionic to dose Ca and Alk. A little expensive compared to some methods, but a high quality product. It also has some trace elements in it. Ca levels should be between 400-450 ppm. No higher especially if you have fish in the reef tank.
 

barracuda

Active Member

Originally posted by NiceNakago
My bubbles in the sand didn't start until I upgraded my NO lighting to MH

There is nothing common between lighting and bubbles in the sand. Those bubbles you see is free nitrogen gas produced by anaerobic bacteria deep in the sand bed.
 
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thomas712

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Barracuda - I have to disagree on this one. Why
Because of microsopic algea, you see this is something that is all over the tank, rocks, substrate. Normally they only become visible after they have taken hold and begin to colonize. The amount of algea a tank has depends on many things here like age of system, substrate and rocks.
Since this guy upgraded his lighting and then noticed the air bubbles what i think happend here was that the algea was giving off excess 02 due to the increase in the lights or even length of time they are on. It won't take long for his system to compensate and become balanced again with its ability to absorb the excess 02 and handle the greater depletion of CO2.
Make sence?
Thomas
 

barracuda

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Tomas, i agree about your statement with algae and lighting. Bubbles all over the rocks where algae is present is photosynthesis. I have those bubbles too, all over my rocks, wherever algae is present. But bubbles in the sand (DSB) represents free nitrogen, unless his sandbed covered with micro/macro algae on top of the sand. This is what i think.
 
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