Ok record yes maybe( 10 wins in 99 and 02, but 3 wins in '00 and 4-9 last year). But just a few years ago yall were a preseason top 5 and went on to lose your opener to UCLA. Tradition is great and yall have a great tradition, but tradition isn't helping yall on the recruiting end anymore just like ND and atleast they have a high academic standard. And look what your new coach did to yalls tradition by renaming the Sylvester Croom award, I know it became the Bart Star Award,and then changed it back, what a joke! Good luck on yalls season this year and hopefully yall can finish middle of the road in the west