240 Long suggestions

95harley

95harley

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I'm considering converting my Fresh 240 (96x24x24) into FOWLR Aggressive Salt. I'm looking for some idea's.
The "must have List" is:
Volitan Lionfish
Harlequin Tusk
Eel - Suggestions? (Would a Tess work?)
Mag. Foxface
Also considering:
Naso Tang
Corvis Wrasse
Yellow Tang
Minatus grouper
Batfish
Hippo Tang
Majestic Angelfish
Is that too much, not enough? Any other really cool fish?
 
dme

dme

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Anything that you can keep with this animal, they both would need to be almost fully grown for and larger grouper can feast itself on a young tess moray and being as that it may, in order to even keep this animal even by itself, it will need one hell of a huge tank with huge LR.
Also it best for the long term of it that one manages to bolt together the LR into position in making its lair. This eel before it is even larger then 2' can bite in half most fish as if it was a shark. The other thing with all this is that this eel has the need to move around, day or night.
In saying all that, this eel long term would require a tank 5x the tank size you have now and I would prefer even larger tank, For the power in this eel, it would as an adult play ping pong with your LR in the tank.
And one other thing, if it be you not got from me what you wanted most, there happens to be two youngsters at grims, they have a tess and think that they are doing great with it, you can go ask them for their thoughts on a tess eel or not.
Lionfish with most eels would never work
 
wanabebell

wanabebell

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maby a threadfin snapper
The miniatus is cool
I dont have a problem with my volitan and my sfe they get along just fine
 
95harley

95harley

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I saw a Brazilian Dragon the other day I believe this is also called a Jeweled Moray...That would be another option as I think they only get around 3'.
But I'm sure one of the "experts" will correct me soon if I have mistated that..lol
If the Tess won't work I may go with one of the lower cost Dragons. The Zebra is nice, but a little to shy for my taste.
 
dme

dme

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95Harley, Why don`t you give a list of fish tank mates that will be with the supposing eel that you will have? But as for anything with the names, Mexican dragon moray and Brazilian Dragon moray, there are only two true dragon morays and one of them.
For if you had look around enough, you see few sites listing the Jewel moray as the Mexican dragon eel and as the Jewel moray a person gets them for what? $49? $59? And by giving this eel the name Mexican dragon moray, the price jumps to $200 or better.
Just how much LR do you have in this tank, I think to remember you saying this tank is a 180 and do note that as active as the spotted eels are, they will become aggressive towards their fish tank mates.
 
95harley

95harley

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DME I have 2 tanks. A 75 and a 240 Long. I was curious if a Dragon could be kept in a 75 by himself, I assume with the "As active as spotted eels are" the answer would be no. But I'm just curious.
Basically I currently have the 75 in Salt with Pred's and the 240 in Fresh and I am going through the thought process if I want to convert the 240 or not.
I wanted a Tess, but I clearly understnd that the 240 would not be big enough. So the second choice would be a Dragon of one flavor or another. Now, if these lil guys are holy terrors and can't be kept with "anything" then my next option would be to put one in my 75 by himself and put the fish list in the 240.
 
boalgf

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I agree with DME that a tess or spotted eel won't go well with fish. I've got a pair of mean spotted eels (man they are a lot of fun) and a fish would have to be very large for them to leave it alone. Even then they would probably still snap at it. I told another member who wanted one that they easily swallow whole a 5-6" fish and neither of them are much longer than 2' yet.
If you got a spotted eel under 2' it would be fine in a 75 for a good long while I think (alone). They get to around 4' so I wouldn't recommend keeping them there for life. They are active and fun to watch. Feeding time is a blast if you can find some live silversides.
Jeweled morays barely get past 2' and would also work in a 75, probably for life. They aren't as aggressive as a spotted or real dragon eel though, but they are beautiful and no where near as expensive as a hawaiian or japanese dragon.
 
dme

dme

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A 75 for a DME be fine, as long you not have the thought in trying to crowd it in with some fish and in a 240, yes you can manage to have a number of fish with the DME you need not to make them so small and nothing that will later become aggressive towards the eel.
This 240 gal tank, if you can, it best if you can have a sump other thing what you must have on this freshwater 240. Properly you have canister filters. And If a person give a DME the lair it truly requires, you not see this eel other then it stick its head out at times.
As for the Tess moray, it is a very active animal and would need a huge opening in which to move around for yes, the tess can fit in a 240, but long term it will suffer.
 
95harley

95harley

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Don't worry when I had the 240 built by glasscages I was already thinking salt one day. It has dual overflows with the largest Amiracle Wet/Dry on it. I also have submerse heaters in the Sump and it already has Retro fit Compact Flourescents with 10k and Act blue (2W per gallon).
This tank was to be a maybe one day Salt tank from the begining.
If the Tess would suffer in a 240 then I would not get it. I originally thought 2 Lions a tess and a Harlequin Tusk ONLY in the 240. But I might switch to the Dragon...or I might keep it all alone in the 75.
All kinds of options since I could keep him with larger fish.
Thanks.
 
00nothing

00nothing

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sorry to hijack but i am thinking about adding a second eel to my tank i currently have a sfe who while very kewl at feeding time i dot see otherwise
the tanks inhabitants are a blue throat trigger, kole tang, SFE, dwarf lion, theres clowns and damsels in there right now also but the clowns would go before another eel is added and as far as the damsels go i hope they swim fast I will be adding a female blue throat nad a powder blue to the tank
the tank is a 135 gallon 72x18x24 and i was wondering what eels some of u might recomend i keep looking at the jewel it is a gorgeous eel
 
95harley

95harley

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From what I have heard and read it's not a good idea to mix eels. I would say the Jewel will kill your SFE...
I have heard of people mixing Zebra's with SFE's successfully, but it is not typically recommended. By the way ALL eels will be cool at feeding time but hide the rest of the time. This is a trademark of the eels.
 
dme

dme

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Originally Posted by 95Harley
From what I have heard and read it's not a good idea to mix eels. I would say the Jewel will kill your SFE...
I have heard of people mixing Zebra's with SFE's successfully, but it is not typically recommended. By the way ALL eels will be cool at feeding time but hide the rest of the time. This is a trademark of the eels.
95Harley, there be a good many marine species that any of use keep that out in the wild they never had any contact for as well, you will get a difference in views on the idea of mixing tank species for this has been going on ever since I care to remember and even longer before that over seas the hobby was already blooming.
Success however would depend much on the individual in how they take care in maintenance and feeding. For as well, you just don`t mix in any two eel species for there are precautions/safeguards one needs to follow.
 
00nothing

00nothing

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thanks guys good info to know i know with most eels not to expect insane amounts of swimming around but with my SFE he literally will never come out of hiding unless i ring the dinner bell
 
95harley

95harley

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After just picking up a 180 this past week for my freshwater fish to go in, I'm reviving this thread after almost 1 year. This time, I'm actually going to do it. So a 96x24x24 tank with retro power compact lights, dual overflows w/ wet/dry, dual powerheads, 250lbs of LR. I may put a UV Turbo Twist on it as well (in the near future)
Fish I already have for this tank:
Volitan Lion - 8"
Miniatus Grouper - 6"
Fish on the Must have list:
Large Angel - Majestic, Queen, Passer, suggestions welcomed
Aussie Tusk - My miniatus killer my indo pac in a 75g, hope a 240 gives saftey
Eel (other than SFE or Zeb) - Jewel, Goldentail, Whitemouth, Banded
Lionfish - Possibly a second?
Fish on the maybe list
Butterfly - (1-3) Racoon, Auriga, any other easily kept hardy one's
Tang - As long as it's not an ich magnet (sailfin, yellow, naso)
Trigger - As long as it would not shred my Lion (Niger, Blue throat)
Foxface - Magestic, Lo
What works, what doesn't, and any things to look out for?
 
sharkboy13

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Originally Posted by 95Harley
After just picking up a 180 this past week for my freshwater fish to go in, I'm reviving this thread after almost 1 year. This time, I'm actually going to do it. So a 96x24x24 tank with retro power compact lights, dual overflows w/ wet/dry, dual powerheads, 250lbs of LR. I may put a UV Turbo Twist on it as well (in the near future)
Fish I already have for this tank:
Volitan Lion - 8"
Miniatus Grouper - 6"
Fish on the Must have list:
Large Angel - Majestic, Queen, Passer, suggestions welcomed
Aussie Tusk - My miniatus killer my indo pac in a 75g, hope a 240 gives saftey
Eel (other than SFE or Zeb) - Jewel, Goldentail, Whitemouth, Banded
Lionfish - Possibly a second?
Fish on the maybe list
Butterfly - (1-3) Racoon, Auriga, any other easily kept hardy one's
Tang - As long as it's not an ich magnet (sailfin, yellow, naso)
Trigger - As long as it would not shred my Lion (Niger, Blue throat)
Foxface - Magestic, Lo
What works, what doesn't, and any things to look out for?
no butterflies r rtruly suited to an agg, a peaceful FOWLP maybe but not agg, i wouldnt do any wrasse w/ a lion
 
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