260W PC....what corals/anemones???

babyb

Active Member
in my 55 i have a two bubble tips and are doing great ( knock on wood) one was huge then split i also have a qurly q that came as a hh and hes doing well to
i have 260 wts of pc and i have many mushrooms, leathers, torch, orange sponge gargonia ( sp?),xenia, and im sure theres something im missing
 

cjml

Member
Originally Posted by hot883
Questions are great. It is the smart guys that do nothing but start trouble that make it bad for everyone else.
Healthy conversation is good, being rude and ALWAYS starting trouble NOT good.
There is a search feature at the top. Most people do not know it is there and get mad when no one answers their questions; when that SAME question has been asked 10 times today.
We want your success, not failure.
I am a moderator and my answers come from MY experience so I can give guidance. If I am wrong I WILL admit it immediately.
I am not a moderator just a member&
I am not sure what you mean-you sound so angry-I also probably ask questions that have been asked many times-I come to this site to interact with fellow hobbyists-to have fun-I enjoy the questions - look at all the different answers and opinions and gather all the information and formulate an opinion that works for me. I enjoy sharing pictures and sharing good things that happen to us in this hobby and feel sad over the bad things that happen to us. "Learning" always learning. This site I thought was supposed to be for fun and learning and interacting positively with one another. I know I would like it to be that! I am a nursing supervisor and would never discourage my staff from asking questions or coming to me with anything they "think" is stupid. We would be in big trouble if that happened. Overall I do not think the majority of people on this site are troublemakers. Only a few-just a few...Ok I have ranted enough....bty there are many sites out there- I really like this one....
 

browniebuck

Active Member
Originally Posted by hot883
Oh, I see what you are saying. I'm just saying 99% of the time an anemone is NOT going to survive under those conditions.
Have you seen this anemone at the LFS for 2 years or taking his word?
Angels die all the time. They are harvested with cyanide the majority of the time so no great surprise there. (I know that was an example)

Not to be an

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, but do you have research to back up your 99% statement? I am not saying that I will or won't have success with an anemone with 260W PC, or for that matter, that I will even purchase an anemone. Just because you had one failed attempt doesn't mean that all of the attempts of others' will also fail. I simply asked a question and had the entire thread taken over by juvenile arguments!!! NOW, would anyone else like to give me some info on corals and or anemones (especially success stories in a 55g with 260W of PC).
Thanks for your help!!!
P.S. My green mandarin dragonet is doing very well!
 

hot883

Active Member
Report back in 6-8 months and call me on it if you want. I suspect you won't. I am here to help. not make mad. The reference to the trouble maker was recieved by him as he knows whom he is.
How long has the dragonette been in there?
 

browniebuck

Active Member
Originally Posted by hot883
Report back in 6-8 months and call me on it if you want. I suspect you won't. I am here to help. not make mad. The reference to the trouble maker was recieved by him as he knows whom he is.
How long has the dragonette been in there?

I am not trying to be a prick, I got your point, you didn't have success and you don't think others will (thanks for the advice). The dragonet has been in the tank for 2 weeks so far, it is only 1.5-2" right now (I know that this isn't very long). We have purchased three of the packages of copepods from SWF and have another order in the works, until I get the refugium up and running (I have researched the fish, I know what they need). We also have 70lbs LR so far, with another 15-30 in our plans (I have gotten that lecture already, but my wife purchased the fish, now we are working on him to make sure that he survives)
 

bronco300

Active Member
gee...
brownie you could have softies like zoos(my personal favorite) ,mushrooms,candys, etc...sps, anemones, clams are not recommended for you lighting, however it COULD be done, its not recommended and probably doesn't have as good of a success rate.... If you do try an anemone i would have a backup plan if it does go bad, a friend you could give it to or an lfs for credit or whatever. just my opinion...good luck and keep us updated
 

browniebuck

Active Member
Originally Posted by Bronco300
gee...
brownie you could have softies like zoos(my personal favorite) ,mushrooms,candys, etc...sps, anemones, clams are not recommended for you lighting, however it COULD be done, its not recommended and probably doesn't have as good of a success rate.... If you do try an anemone i would have a backup plan if it does go bad, a friend you could give it to or an lfs for credit or whatever. just my opinion...good luck and keep us updated

WOW...BACK ON TOPIC....thanks for the advice. I know that I could trade anything in to my LFS, they are great about that. My only real reason to get the anemone was to see the symbiotic relationship between our maroon/porcelain crabs and the anemone.
 

cjml

Member
Well if he decides to get an anemone -I hope it does well. We went to a petland store here in town-never been before-had to get some food-and what I saw there tugged at my heart. All their sw fish were little bitty babies,tangs,mandarins,wrasses and many more. Most of them will not survive very long-they were not well.. So if there are responsible learning fish keepers with decent tanks -even if they are smaller tanks- but good quality water-these little babies will have a much better chance then what they have where they are now. They will suffer and die. But the potential owner does need to know about a stable tank. If I were rich I would buy the darn place. Pitifull.... and these stores will keep on buying them...
 

bronco300

Active Member
Originally Posted by browniebuck
WOW...BACK ON TOPIC....thanks for the advice. I know that I could trade anything in to my LFS, they are great about that. My only real reason to get the anemone was to see the symbiotic relationship between our maroon/porcelain crabs and the anemone.

i'll tell ya, my clowns just finally started hosting my sebae a couple weeks ago..i LOVE watching them go in and out of it.--you may want to seek the advice of thomas, another mod here who is a GIANT anemone keeper--if you search he has some pics of his tank loaded with them...but you could always get something like xenia, zoos, galaxea, just about anything and the clown may host it..mine hosted zoos, galazxea, pulsing xenia..crazy creatures-remarkable to watch
 

phat fish

New Member
I have a new bubble tip in a 65gal and have 2X 96 watt pc's, and I am a newb. After reading this thread and learning about all this lighting needs I sure hope I can make it work. Maybe I can light the tank for a longer period of time in order to make up the shortcoming in the light department. What do you guys think? :notsure:
 

browniebuck

Active Member
Originally Posted by MS752
I have got a 125gal w/ 384 watts of PC and my anemone did not make it......just my experience.


Not that I am an expert, but 384W for a 125 gal only works out to a little over 3 watts per gallon of water. I have been told that minimum for an anemone is 4 watts per gallon.
 

reefkprz

Active Member
watts per gallon is about the most innacurate form of measuring light requirements, its a outdated method of mesureing lighting requirments as a general rule you need to figure watts per distance because light penetrating say a 20g xhigh (looks like two ten gallons on top of eachother) wont be anywhere near the same as light penetration in a 20Gallon long 12 inches of depth versus 24 inches of depth, the light at the bottom of each respective tank is at completley different levels due to distance and amount of water it has to penetrate, water is very effective at filtering light down below usuable amounts for photosynthesis.
as to your question about longer photo periods, yes extended photoperiods can help make up for a lack in lighting. with your tank being a 55g you want to think not like you have 260watts of light because each side is only getting 130W of light. because the watttage from the left side of the tank does not light the right side.
If you want some thing for your clowns to host in try a toadstool leather my tomatoes host in mine and I dont have to worry about the anemone moving around stinging my corals.
corals I would reccomend for your tank.
torch, hammer, frogspawn, candycane (LPS)
zoanthids, mushrooms, ricordea yuma, toadstool leathers, chili, sunpolyps, gorgonian, Palythoas, hidden cup, sinularia dura, tree corals (placed high), (softies)
thats an amazing variety when you actually look and see all the many types of each listed. I would reccomend steering clear of anemones untill you have better lighting. I believe you would only enjoy short term success with an anemone.
I hope this information helps you out good luck with your tank.
 

hot883

Active Member

Originally Posted by 05xrunner
SOOO..would a seabe work in my 75gal with 260w of PC and 216w of T5 lighting..have 476watts on the tank
I think it would do ok.
Here's the thing:
I am not angry I am not mad. I am just telling you from my experience and MANY others. When you post a general question like this you will always get answers that you don't want to hear. In fact you will hear NO 15 times and 1 yes. (as an example) Hey you got the yes so I am gonna do it.
More people will chime in yes to support the argument that do not have a clue; just to be chiming in.
My final views are; anemones should be tried by an aquarists that has an esatablished tank (1 year or more)
Two reasons for that. Their experience level will be greater and will have a little knowledge what to look for and also their equipment might be upgraded by then and the anemone would have a chance.
I did not tell you of my anemone dying so you can't do it. It's just the basic or classic inexperience/cheaper insuffecient equipment that leads to alot of anemones not making it.
Best of luck to ya. Barry
 

fallnhorse

Member

Originally Posted by hot883
NO ANEMONE

NO ANEMONE

Did I mention ,NO anemones
My anemone was thriving under 260 watt in my 55...I killed it wit 2xh 175 watt MH
Bleached him nicely
. Not like you can pick where they are located.
 
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