2nd dog... should I?
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2quills
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Larry looks more american terrier than anything to me. Many also have that brindle coat. Definitely mixed with something though. There could be some mastiff in their possibly. But I can understand not wanting to attach the "terrier" name to him within city limits. I've got an american staffordshire terrier mix, she's a great dog.
2quills
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I actually thought that this dog would turn out looking something like a mastiff when we first got her...
She actually turned out looking more pit than anything.
I've been really happy with her. Smart and listens well. She's very loving and has been quite the nurturer with our dane puppy when we first got her. She has great temperament and has never shown any signs that she would go out of her way to hurt anyone. But I will say that she is fiercely territorial of certain strangers. But when I'm not home and it's just my wife there, she's even more territorial. And it's because of that reason that I'm not so comfortable with the idea of strangers kids being around her unsupervised. Even though she's never shown aggression towards kids I would never allow strangers kids to play with her unsupervised just because of the taboo associated with terriers.
She actually turned out looking more pit than anything.
I've been really happy with her. Smart and listens well. She's very loving and has been quite the nurturer with our dane puppy when we first got her. She has great temperament and has never shown any signs that she would go out of her way to hurt anyone. But I will say that she is fiercely territorial of certain strangers. But when I'm not home and it's just my wife there, she's even more territorial. And it's because of that reason that I'm not so comfortable with the idea of strangers kids being around her unsupervised. Even though she's never shown aggression towards kids I would never allow strangers kids to play with her unsupervised just because of the taboo associated with terriers.
2quills
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/394050/2nd-dog-should-i/40#post_3507869
I can see more mastiff than terrier. It doesn't have the beady little eyes.
Like these? lol
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/394050/2nd-dog-should-i/40#post_3507869
I can see more mastiff than terrier. It doesn't have the beady little eyes.
Like these? lol
2quills
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/394050/2nd-dog-should-i/40#post_3507873
Yep, and the ears too. Pits are good dogs around people and dogs they know but there is a reason they use them for fighting. They do not like strange dogs and would just as soon commence vittles as suffer them to be in their universe.
Yeah there's just to many what if's. I've known my share of people who've owned mostly full blooded pits over the years and I can honestly say that I think much has to do with the way they are raised. But at the same time they are all fully capable of inflicting some serious damage if they need to.
True story, we had a renter who owned a couple of pits. I was over at their house to meet the insurance adjuster a little over a month ago and the lady told me that her dog lashed out at one of her friends kids and bit him in the throat when he was eating. Every time I've been over to the house the dog looks like it wanted to rip my throat out as well. So I just shook my head when she told me that she just couldn't imagine her dog ever doing that. Too many, what if's to not be careful with them and take the proper precautions. Because I've seen some that appear to be polar opposites of the blood thirsty killers that we read about.
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/394050/2nd-dog-should-i/40#post_3507873
Yep, and the ears too. Pits are good dogs around people and dogs they know but there is a reason they use them for fighting. They do not like strange dogs and would just as soon commence vittles as suffer them to be in their universe.
Yeah there's just to many what if's. I've known my share of people who've owned mostly full blooded pits over the years and I can honestly say that I think much has to do with the way they are raised. But at the same time they are all fully capable of inflicting some serious damage if they need to.
True story, we had a renter who owned a couple of pits. I was over at their house to meet the insurance adjuster a little over a month ago and the lady told me that her dog lashed out at one of her friends kids and bit him in the throat when he was eating. Every time I've been over to the house the dog looks like it wanted to rip my throat out as well. So I just shook my head when she told me that she just couldn't imagine her dog ever doing that. Too many, what if's to not be careful with them and take the proper precautions. Because I've seen some that appear to be polar opposites of the blood thirsty killers that we read about.
reefraff
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Yeah, I posted in the other thread about my friend's bernard going cujo. My 2nd Brother had a particularly nasty black lab. The thing was muscular like a dobie. After a couple instances where the dog snarled at my mom for yelling at him for digging in the trash (the dog, not my brother) she made him get ride of it. He gave it to number 1 brother. While in his possession it got out and tore up a pittbull (who was on a chain) bad enough the pitt had to be put down. This was back in the 70's when it wasn't a common thing to spend what would have been hundreds of dollars getting a dog operated on.
So you get the idea this dog was a bad motor scooter. Well several months before that happened number 2 brother had the lab with him at a construction site where he was working. He heard a dog yelping and looked to see his lab, being carried down the street in the mouth of a Bull Mastiff, another supposedly docile breed. He and the Mastiffs owner tried spraying WD 40 in the dogs eyes and prying it's mouth open with a piece of wood. Someone finally handed my brother a piece of pipe and it took two pops to the head to get the thing to turn loose.
That is why I own a smallish lab cross and a beagle LOL!
So you get the idea this dog was a bad motor scooter. Well several months before that happened number 2 brother had the lab with him at a construction site where he was working. He heard a dog yelping and looked to see his lab, being carried down the street in the mouth of a Bull Mastiff, another supposedly docile breed. He and the Mastiffs owner tried spraying WD 40 in the dogs eyes and prying it's mouth open with a piece of wood. Someone finally handed my brother a piece of pipe and it took two pops to the head to get the thing to turn loose.
That is why I own a smallish lab cross and a beagle LOL!
flower
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/394050/2nd-dog-should-i/40#post_3507880
Yeah, I posted in the other thread about my friend's bernard going cujo. My 2nd Brother had a particularly nasty black lab. The thing was muscular like a dobie. After a couple instances where the dog snarled at my mom for yelling at him for digging in the trash (the dog, not my brother) she made him get ride of it. He gave it to number 1 brother. While in his possession it got out and tore up a pittbull (who was on a chain) bad enough the pitt had to be put down. This was back in the 70's when it wasn't a common thing to spend what would have been hundreds of dollars getting a dog operated on.
So you get the idea this dog was a bad motor scooter. Well several months before that happened number 2 brother had the lab with him at a construction site where he was working. He heard a dog yelping and looked to see his lab, being carried down the street in the mouth of a Bull Mastiff, another supposedly docile breed. He and the Mastiffs owner tried spraying WD 40 in the dogs eyes and prying it's mouth open with a piece of wood. Someone finally handed my brother a piece of pipe and it took two pops to the head to get the thing to turn loose.
That is why I own a smallish lab cross and a beagle LOL!
Sounds like karma, what goes around, comes around...even in the dog world.
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/394050/2nd-dog-should-i/40#post_3507880
Yeah, I posted in the other thread about my friend's bernard going cujo. My 2nd Brother had a particularly nasty black lab. The thing was muscular like a dobie. After a couple instances where the dog snarled at my mom for yelling at him for digging in the trash (the dog, not my brother) she made him get ride of it. He gave it to number 1 brother. While in his possession it got out and tore up a pittbull (who was on a chain) bad enough the pitt had to be put down. This was back in the 70's when it wasn't a common thing to spend what would have been hundreds of dollars getting a dog operated on.
So you get the idea this dog was a bad motor scooter. Well several months before that happened number 2 brother had the lab with him at a construction site where he was working. He heard a dog yelping and looked to see his lab, being carried down the street in the mouth of a Bull Mastiff, another supposedly docile breed. He and the Mastiffs owner tried spraying WD 40 in the dogs eyes and prying it's mouth open with a piece of wood. Someone finally handed my brother a piece of pipe and it took two pops to the head to get the thing to turn loose.
That is why I own a smallish lab cross and a beagle LOL!
Sounds like karma, what goes around, comes around...even in the dog world.
reefraff
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Originally Posted by Flower http:///t/394050/2nd-dog-should-i/40#post_3507892
Sounds like karma, what goes around, comes around...even in the dog world.
The lab got mastiff mauled before he scraped the pit. He actually didn't come out of it that bad. 3 fang holes, The karma came into play after he tangled with the pit. He didn't come out of that fight unscathed and the Sheriff ordered him to be put down. Still the prettiest lab I ever saw. Just a real a hole.
Originally Posted by Flower http:///t/394050/2nd-dog-should-i/40#post_3507892
Sounds like karma, what goes around, comes around...even in the dog world.
The lab got mastiff mauled before he scraped the pit. He actually didn't come out of it that bad. 3 fang holes, The karma came into play after he tangled with the pit. He didn't come out of that fight unscathed and the Sheriff ordered him to be put down. Still the prettiest lab I ever saw. Just a real a hole.
crimzy
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Pulled the trigger on another today. Seemed perfect, about 50 lbs, 4 years old, all good specs and the kids love her. Here she is...
Bring her home and she is extremely territorial with my saint. Starts to fight with her if she approaches food, water, bones, toys... even when she came to me just to be petted. At first I thought it was just to establish dominance but it looks more like aggression. The shelter said she was good with dogs there.
Bring her home and she is extremely territorial with my saint. Starts to fight with her if she approaches food, water, bones, toys... even when she came to me just to be petted. At first I thought it was just to establish dominance but it looks more like aggression. The shelter said she was good with dogs there.
crimzy
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There's no way I could have a puppy with my schedule.
The aggression is getting worse. I separated the dogs for a bit and as soon as i gave them freedom the new one lunged at my saint, creating a vicious dogfight that spanned through 2 rooms and drew blood. I'm convinced that this dog is part pit and is going back tomorrow... it's lucky I'm not putting a bullet through it's freaking head.
The aggression is getting worse. I separated the dogs for a bit and as soon as i gave them freedom the new one lunged at my saint, creating a vicious dogfight that spanned through 2 rooms and drew blood. I'm convinced that this dog is part pit and is going back tomorrow... it's lucky I'm not putting a bullet through it's freaking head.
reefraff
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Originally Posted by crimzy http:///t/394050/2nd-dog-should-i/40#post_3508889
I think they check for food aggression with people but not dogs. I also think they act different at a shelter than in a home.
It could be that once the dog settles in it would be fine but with little kids in the house you can't take the chance. Bummer man.
Originally Posted by crimzy http:///t/394050/2nd-dog-should-i/40#post_3508889
I think they check for food aggression with people but not dogs. I also think they act different at a shelter than in a home.
It could be that once the dog settles in it would be fine but with little kids in the house you can't take the chance. Bummer man.
flower
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+1 on what Gemmy said about crate training, and it does bite that it didn't work out....
The other problem could be two dogs of the same sex. Get one fixed so you won't have to worry about puppies, but the opposite sex usually won't fight for the alpha position. I had that problem when we had two males, Atticus nearly ripped the ear off of the Golden retriever my mother brought into the home...he was the sweetest dog, but he and Atticus were forever jealous of each other (I couldn't even pet one without the other horning in to push the other away) and they fought over chew bones and food besides. females are usually not as bad as males for fighting, but it is what it is.
The other problem could be two dogs of the same sex. Get one fixed so you won't have to worry about puppies, but the opposite sex usually won't fight for the alpha position. I had that problem when we had two males, Atticus nearly ripped the ear off of the Golden retriever my mother brought into the home...he was the sweetest dog, but he and Atticus were forever jealous of each other (I couldn't even pet one without the other horning in to push the other away) and they fought over chew bones and food besides. females are usually not as bad as males for fighting, but it is what it is.