4" Fans?

mmslue79

Member
On my 120 I plan on using (4) 4" fans. The reason so many is in the summer my apt is a tad on the warm side, and I plan on running 440 watts of lights. So here is my plan: two on each side of the canopy, one towards the rear and the other towards the front (location on side canopy). Those fans will be blowing in. Then running (2) on the top blowing out. How does this sound? And is there any difference between fans, are there good ones to use? Any help would be great!
 

almarktool

Member
not sure how your tank is set up but 4 sounds a bit over kill to me for cosmetic purposes if u your canopy is open in the back u might just add 2 to the top blowing out or do 1 on the left blowing in and then 1 on right blowing out it is always easy to add the extra 2 later if u need to
 

mmslue79

Member
Well not I am thinking the two on the side and then one on the top located in the middle. Sound better, save me some money for LR!
 

broomer5

Active Member
mmslue79
In our tanks we use powerheads to move saltwater in all directions. We want a somewhat random water movement, or at least we want the water to move from down deep to the top, and vice versa. Having the water circulate is the goal.
Air movement is quite a different story from my viewpoint.
If you want to get RID of the warm/hot air, meaning get it up and away from the water surface - mount the fans in the top of the canopy blowing air OUT, and allow the cooler ambient room temperature air to be naturally sucked in at the bottom of the hood.
Having fans mounted this way will impart a negative static pressure inside the canopy. The actual air pressure will be negative near the ceiling of the hood ( near the fans blades ) and will be a postive pressure on the discharge ( on the outside top "roof" ).
This differential pressure in part, is what makes the air flow from inside to outside. It's the difference between the pressure inside the canopy relative to the pressure in the room.
The static pressure, combined along with the "flowing" air pressure is called "total" pressure.
Total pressure minus the static is flowing pressure.
Cooler air will naturally be drawn in down near the water surface by this negative pressure within the canopy, and the net result is hot air moving up and out.
Every exhaust hood I've every worked on at work operates this way.
When you want to get rid of something, be it fumes or heat - exhaust the air - don't blow it into the hood.
The lamps are going to get hot no matter how much air you blow across them ( within practical reasons of course ), and the goal should be to keep the tankwater from taking on heat from the air column above it - not to move hot air down towards the tank water surface.
Blow hot air out
Suck cooler air in
Evaporation of the tankwater is what helps to remove heat of the water. It will take place no matter what we do. Forcing warm/hot air down will only increase the evaporation rate.
This is my opinion on fan placement.
Four 4" fans in the top ceiling may be overkill, but certainly would move a lot of air up and out, and not blow it in your face as you walk by the end of the tank.
If you want more information - let me know.
Q = AV Where: Q = Quantity of flow in cubic feet per minute.
A = Cross sectional area of duct in square feet.
V = Average velocity in feet per minute.
 

melbournefl

Member
Well put Broomer (*sigh* as usual) , I've mounted 5 fans pulling air out of my hood. They are mounted in the rear of the hood and are wired in series. In my opinion, I can't see that you could ever really have too much airflow through the hood, unless of course it starts sucking the water up out of the tank LOL ... You can pick up fans for about $2.75 each from computergeeks.com and then a AC/DC 12volt converter from radio shack. Check with where you buy them for the rated amps and multiply amps x fans to choose your power supply. In my case the fans are rated at 600ma x 5 so I bought a 12volt/3 amp power supply. I'm not an electrical engineer so if I've miscalculated, please let me know.
Good luck whatever you decide!
Later,
Paul
 

mmslue79

Member
Broomer5:
Well after reading and rereading your "article", just messing with you! I agree with what you are saying. Man that was an impressive post. Come on SWF.com, let's hear a round of applause....... Thanks all for your help.
mmslue79
 
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