41,000 dollars to be able to drive 40 miles......
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Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3292409
Middle of the highway?... interesting.
It works here. The traffic has to be really bad for you to get benefits, but we often carpool so we can use it. That takes one more car off the road.
How is that unsuccessful?
It works here to an extent too. What really pisses me off though is seeing a soccer mom with a kid or 2 in the back riding the HOV lane. The law here only says that you need more than one person in the car. It says nothing about more than one person that is able to drive in the car. The whole intent was to get more drivers off the road by carpooling.
http:///forum/post/3292409
Middle of the highway?... interesting.
It works here. The traffic has to be really bad for you to get benefits, but we often carpool so we can use it. That takes one more car off the road.
It works here to an extent too. What really pisses me off though is seeing a soccer mom with a kid or 2 in the back riding the HOV lane. The law here only says that you need more than one person in the car. It says nothing about more than one person that is able to drive in the car. The whole intent was to get more drivers off the road by carpooling.
reefraff
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There is a company working on a diesel Hybrid that I personally think will be the real mainstream of the hybrid. It's the same system we have used in locomotives for years. Clean and powerful enough to use in everything from a 2 seat smart car to an 18 wheeler. That is what will drive prices down, having a system that can be used cross platform.
stdreb27
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Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3292409
Middle of the highway?... interesting.
It works here. The traffic has to be really bad for you to get benefits, but we often carpool so we can use it. That takes one more car off the road.
How is that unsuccessful?
In houston on I-10 is kills 2 lanes of traffic one way, that means 4 lanes of HOV. Quite frankly, if we didn't have those 2 lanes killed there wouldn't be traffic to begin with... I know if you have a bike you can go on there as a single occupant but I don't think that same thing applies to hybrids. And fortunately now, you can ride on it if you have a toll tag.
But quite frankly, especially with these hybrids it makes me think of russia, and the politicians only lanes.
http:///forum/post/3292409
Middle of the highway?... interesting.
It works here. The traffic has to be really bad for you to get benefits, but we often carpool so we can use it. That takes one more car off the road.
In houston on I-10 is kills 2 lanes of traffic one way, that means 4 lanes of HOV. Quite frankly, if we didn't have those 2 lanes killed there wouldn't be traffic to begin with... I know if you have a bike you can go on there as a single occupant but I don't think that same thing applies to hybrids. And fortunately now, you can ride on it if you have a toll tag.
But quite frankly, especially with these hybrids it makes me think of russia, and the politicians only lanes.
fishtaco
Active Member
Originally Posted by T316
http:///forum/post/3292354
I'll stick with my F250 for now. I don't see any of these being able to haul an RV or Boy Scout trailer. Heck, they don't even look like they could handle a fat person.
Yeah, hybrid drivers hate big trucks until they need to move. LOL
Fishtaco(Some people actually use their big trucks)
http:///forum/post/3292354
I'll stick with my F250 for now. I don't see any of these being able to haul an RV or Boy Scout trailer. Heck, they don't even look like they could handle a fat person.
Yeah, hybrid drivers hate big trucks until they need to move. LOL
Fishtaco(Some people actually use their big trucks)
slice
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The problem I have with these "hybrid" vehicles is that most people who are "saving the planet" have no idea what the resource is that they use. An electric car is clean because it uses electricity that comes from the home outlet, right?
In this area, an "electric car" is nuclear powered. Most "electric cars" are coal powered, some are hydroelectric powered depending on where you live. Add electricity transmission inefficiency to the mix. I need to research a bit; run the numbers and see if there really is any conservation involved...
Try telling a tree hugging greenie that his hybrid is really a coal burning car, see what he says....
In this area, an "electric car" is nuclear powered. Most "electric cars" are coal powered, some are hydroelectric powered depending on where you live. Add electricity transmission inefficiency to the mix. I need to research a bit; run the numbers and see if there really is any conservation involved...
Try telling a tree hugging greenie that his hybrid is really a coal burning car, see what he says....
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by Fishtaco
http:///forum/post/3292422
Yeah, hybrid drivers hate big trucks until they need to move. LOL
Fishtaco(Some people actually use their big trucks)
Then all of a sudden you're their best friends...
http:///forum/post/3292422
Yeah, hybrid drivers hate big trucks until they need to move. LOL
Fishtaco(Some people actually use their big trucks)
Then all of a sudden you're their best friends...
cranberry
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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/3292418
In houston on I-10 is kills 2 lanes of traffic one way, that means 4 lanes of HOV. Quite frankly, if we didn't have those 2 lanes killed there wouldn't be traffic to begin with... I know if you have a bike you can go on there as a single occupant but I don't think that same thing applies to hybrids. And fortunately now, you can ride on it if you have a toll tag.
But quite frankly, especially with these hybrids it makes me think of russia, and the politicians only lanes.
Ours are not that way. You get the far left lane and that's it. There's a good 4-6 lanes per direction for the single drivers. I'm not saying it's a perfect method, but it only takes one experience of Santa Ana winds to know we gotta do SOMETHING and this something is very easy and benign.
The cops are on it around here... it's 371 per violation.
A few years ago it was 271... does anyone know how they come up with the $1 dollar cause it seems to be a common theme.
http:///forum/post/3292418
In houston on I-10 is kills 2 lanes of traffic one way, that means 4 lanes of HOV. Quite frankly, if we didn't have those 2 lanes killed there wouldn't be traffic to begin with... I know if you have a bike you can go on there as a single occupant but I don't think that same thing applies to hybrids. And fortunately now, you can ride on it if you have a toll tag.
But quite frankly, especially with these hybrids it makes me think of russia, and the politicians only lanes.
Ours are not that way. You get the far left lane and that's it. There's a good 4-6 lanes per direction for the single drivers. I'm not saying it's a perfect method, but it only takes one experience of Santa Ana winds to know we gotta do SOMETHING and this something is very easy and benign.
The cops are on it around here... it's 371 per violation.
A few years ago it was 271... does anyone know how they come up with the $1 dollar cause it seems to be a common theme.
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3292455
Ours are not that way. You get the far left lane and that's it. There's a good 4-6 lanes per direction for the single drivers. I'm not saying it's a perfect method, but it only takes one experience of Santa Ana winds to know we gotta do SOMETHING and this something is very easy and benign.
The cops are on it around here... it's 371 per violation.
A few years ago it was 271... does anyone know how they come up with the $1 dollar cause it seems to be a common theme.
What they do is earmark a certain amount of each violation to various things. For instance, ever ticket issued to a driver in Texas, $1 goes to A&M and $1 goes to the UT system. And there are more...
I've driven in LA before, and quite frankly one more lane wouldn't do them any better...
http:///forum/post/3292455
Ours are not that way. You get the far left lane and that's it. There's a good 4-6 lanes per direction for the single drivers. I'm not saying it's a perfect method, but it only takes one experience of Santa Ana winds to know we gotta do SOMETHING and this something is very easy and benign.
The cops are on it around here... it's 371 per violation.
A few years ago it was 271... does anyone know how they come up with the $1 dollar cause it seems to be a common theme.
What they do is earmark a certain amount of each violation to various things. For instance, ever ticket issued to a driver in Texas, $1 goes to A&M and $1 goes to the UT system. And there are more...
I've driven in LA before, and quite frankly one more lane wouldn't do them any better...
reefraff
Active Member
Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3292455
Ours are not that way. You get the far left lane and that's it. There's a good 4-6 lanes per direction for the single drivers. I'm not saying it's a perfect method, but it only takes one experience of Santa Ana winds to know we gotta do SOMETHING and this something is very easy and benign.
The cops are on it around here... it's 371 per violation.
A few years ago it was 271... does anyone know how they come up with the $1 dollar cause it seems to be a common theme.
You should have been down there when the paved the Santa Ana, OH THE HUMANITY
Those diamond lanes help quite a bit but the simple fact is they need more freeways there.
http:///forum/post/3292455
Ours are not that way. You get the far left lane and that's it. There's a good 4-6 lanes per direction for the single drivers. I'm not saying it's a perfect method, but it only takes one experience of Santa Ana winds to know we gotta do SOMETHING and this something is very easy and benign.
The cops are on it around here... it's 371 per violation.
A few years ago it was 271... does anyone know how they come up with the $1 dollar cause it seems to be a common theme.
You should have been down there when the paved the Santa Ana, OH THE HUMANITY
Those diamond lanes help quite a bit but the simple fact is they need more freeways there.
fishtaco
Active Member
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3292509
You should have been down there when the paved the Santa Ana, OH THE HUMANITY
Those diamond lanes help quite a bit but the simple fact is they need more freeways there.
No kidding, last I time I drove in Southern Cali I guess I must be a bad driver because I half-way obeyed the laws and tried to keep a safe following distance between myself and the car in front of me. That's when I was moving at all though. My hat is off to anyone who can tolerate a commute like that on a daily basis and still have some humanity left.
Fishtaco
http:///forum/post/3292509
You should have been down there when the paved the Santa Ana, OH THE HUMANITY
Those diamond lanes help quite a bit but the simple fact is they need more freeways there.
No kidding, last I time I drove in Southern Cali I guess I must be a bad driver because I half-way obeyed the laws and tried to keep a safe following distance between myself and the car in front of me. That's when I was moving at all though. My hat is off to anyone who can tolerate a commute like that on a daily basis and still have some humanity left.
Fishtaco
reefraff
Active Member
People were stupid when they were paving. They would try to pass every car they could before merging over when a lane was closed. My cousin had a low rider point a toy gun at his truck and the guy motioning him to let him in. Too bad for him the Cuzz carried a 44 mag. He pointed it at the guy who darn near wrecked his ride it pulled to the right so hard when he slammed on the brakes.