a new set up
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mightyoxjuice
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You should buy as big of a tank as you can afford to start with then there is no need to upgrade in size.
jillian ayers
Member
How is your mandarin? 44 lbs of liverock is not near enough to sustain one unless you are breeding them in another tank...
php
Member
my tank has been set up over a year now with that many fish and the fish have been doing great, i have read alot books and books and books i know my tank is supposdly way overstocked but everything is doing great,....my mandarin is pretty fat and is doing great he's been in there for around 7 months.I'm thinking bout upgradin but probably in another year..because its expensive. I appreciate all your opinions thanks for all of your help if you need any more info then just ask thanks!
flamehawk
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Not really sure why you post then don't listen. Sometimes its ok to do this because opinions are being offerred and some will work while others won't. In this case this is fact...you are doing yourself and the hobby a dis-service by excessively overstocking your tank. I don't wish bad luck on any fellow hobbiest but the fact is ..your headed for disaster. WE are simply trying to avoid it BEFORE it happens. If you wait one year you will be sorry....or worst yet your fish w/b sorry. I don't know what books you've read that have led you to the conclusion that this is ok. Throw them out and if you need some refferrrals on good books let us know. Impossible for fish to be "doing great".Sorry if sounds so harsh but we are dealing with lives.
Hope you follow the sound advice being offerred by all and upgrade now!! or if you can't afford it, trade in for supplies or credit to LFS. Post on this board and you may be able to sell some.
Hope you follow the sound advice being offerred by all and upgrade now!! or if you can't afford it, trade in for supplies or credit to LFS. Post on this board and you may be able to sell some.
flamehawk
Active Member
You said you read? If you had you had done so carefully you would have read that it's based on ADULT SIZE not current size. I count 40 inches of adult size fish easy ...in a 55!
Here's how to calculate...you have a 55. By the time you compensate for water displacement caused by the live rock and sand, you really only have about 45 gallons of water maybe less. You are almost @ 1 inch per gallon!! Way over stocked. Now I understand why you didn't had a sense of urgency on this. Hopefully you do now. In additon I'm not even commenting on the terrritorial wars and the resulting added stress which leads to shorten lives. These territorial wars are more pronounced and frequent when there is little space for fish to "claim" their territories.
Now let's be honest....you must read more if you are to be successful in this hobby. Even with all I've read, I still make mistakes but I've significantly increased my chances of success by reading lots. Please do the same.
Asking questions on this board is one way of learning but consider asking BEFORE you actually purchase or do something not after.
OK I'm done ....hope you think about this and more importantly ..act. Good luck.
Here's how to calculate...you have a 55. By the time you compensate for water displacement caused by the live rock and sand, you really only have about 45 gallons of water maybe less. You are almost @ 1 inch per gallon!! Way over stocked. Now I understand why you didn't had a sense of urgency on this. Hopefully you do now. In additon I'm not even commenting on the terrritorial wars and the resulting added stress which leads to shorten lives. These territorial wars are more pronounced and frequent when there is little space for fish to "claim" their territories.
Now let's be honest....you must read more if you are to be successful in this hobby. Even with all I've read, I still make mistakes but I've significantly increased my chances of success by reading lots. Please do the same.
Asking questions on this board is one way of learning but consider asking BEFORE you actually purchase or do something not after.
OK I'm done ....hope you think about this and more importantly ..act. Good luck.
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newreefers
Guest
if you don't want to "give" them back to the lfs, ask if they will trade for something else like a coral or dry goods, if not post in the board here to sell the fish.
wrassecal
Active Member
I've got a nice big fat yellow tang, sixline wrasse, mandarin, 2 percs, coral beauty, yellow clown goby and 120 lbs of lr in my 55 gal. They are all healthy and happy......as far as I can tell, but what do I know a happy fish from an unhappy one. No one is sick, no one is starving. I've got too many fish and so do you. Difference is I just got a 135 gal, 6 ft long that mine will be moving into. Then I'll really know what a happy fish is I have a feeling I'm going to be surprised.
I have a feeling I'm going to be surprised.