A Question about urchins...

thud

Member
How do I know if an urchin is dying or dead?
I recently bought one and it seems to be moving still but I see that some of the needles have fallen off.. is this normal?
 

sepulatian

Moderator
Originally Posted by thud
How do I know if an urchin is dying or dead?
I recently bought one and it seems to be moving still but I see that some of the needles have fallen off.. is this normal?
That is a sign of stress. How did you acclimate him? What is your SG?
 

thud

Member
Originally Posted by sepulatian
That is a sign of stress. How did you acclimate him? What is your SG?

Ok, it did not start losing needles until we moved it. We had to move it because it was stuck.
It is still moving it's needles however it doesn't seem to be moving from it's spot (it may after I turn my lights off though)
Do you think it still has a chance or should I remove it?
 

sepulatian

Moderator
Originally Posted by thud
Ok, it did not start losing needles until we moved it. We had to move it because it was stuck.
It is still moving it's needles however it doesn't seem to be moving from it's spot (it may after I turn my lights off though)
Do you think it still has a chance or should I remove it?
You didn't answer my questions. How long did you acclimate it, what is your SG. Don't move the urchin. He will go where he is most comfortable. How long have you had this tank? They are never stuck. If they get into a spot then they can get themselves out of it.
 

thud

Member
Originally Posted by sepulatian
You didn't answer my questions. How long did you acclimate it, what is your SG. Don't move the urchin. He will go where he is most comfortable. How long have you had this tank? They are never stuck. If they get into a spot then they can get themselves out of it.

It was drip acclimated for an hour.
 

sepulatian

Moderator
Originally Posted by thud
It was drip acclimated for an hour.
He is in acclimation shock. These animals need at least 4+hrs of very slow acclimation. You haven't said what your SG is after me asking twice. If it is under 1.025 then it is too low. 1.026 is preferred. For future reference, don't buy an urchin or star until your system is over 8 months old. Drip acclimate them for a long period of time (4-5+hrs) and have your SG at 1.026. Please note that acclimation shock can take a month to kill the invert. You just purchased this one. If in doubt, please ask. We will help you with the right decisions.
 

thud

Member
Originally Posted by sepulatian
He is in acclimation shock. These animals need at least 4+hrs of very slow acclimation. You haven't said what your SG is after me asking twice. If it is under 1.025 then it is too low. 1.026 is preferred. For future reference, don't buy an urchin or star until your system is over 8 months old. Drip acclimate them for a long period of time (4-5+hrs) and have your SG at 1.026. Please note that acclimation shock can take a month to kill the invert. You just purchased this one. If in doubt, please ask. We will help you with the right decisions.

You say "acclimation shock can take a month to kill the invert."
Does that mean the urchin will most likely die?
 

sepulatian

Moderator
Originally Posted by thud
You say "acclimation shock can take a month to kill the invert."
Does that mean the urchin will most likely die?
Again, what is your SG or salinity? There is no way to tell for sure if he will die. The best thing you can do for him is to keep the water levels optimal.
 
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