A question for swf.com

mike22cha

Active Member
Why don't you guys sell sharks and rays? There are some people on here who have ponds big enough for them. Just wondering what the reasoning was behind that.
 

prk543

Member
they used to have a ray in the Misc. fish section, but i don't know why they don't stock them. Then again I am sure if you contacted them and made a request they would order one up for you
-prk543
 

jonthefishguy

Active Member
Some companies like myself will not order sharks or stingrays for people without verification that the person has the ability and the tank space large enough to handle it. And many of us want a 50% downpayment before we order it. It takes a lot to ship a shark. You cant just put a 2 ft lack tip shark in a bag. Not only cause they are 2 ft, but they dont adjust to pressure from land to air like fish do. Sometimes they are shipping in pressurized containers with constant supply of oxygen flowing in the container. Since they dont swim backwards and need manuevering room, we physically verify that they infact have a tank size large enough. Which no one has met yet. OH but they have asked for them. Responsibility starts with the seller.
 

mike22cha

Active Member
Ok I hope they don't have black tips because no one here has a tank big enough for one. If they could list the fact that they can order sharks like small horns, bamboos, coral cats, marbled cats, etc. and give the option to put in an order for them that would be cool.
Another question, does the owner of swf.com even go on here ever?
 

petjunkie

Active Member
They have had sharks and rays before so it may be a stocking issue, maybe they take it off the lists if they are unable to get them for a long period of time.
 

mike22cha

Active Member
I guess they don't have any commonly aviable. I know that there have been a lot of people interested in a small shark for their aquairum, so if they could find someone to get them a marbled catshark,that would be cool because those are hard to find online. They can go into a 180g which there are a lot of here at swf.com. I don't know, that is just my 2 cents.
 

1journeyman

Active Member
Even the smallest sharks need larger then a 180. I'd never try to put one in my tank.
I think the greatest issue is shipping.
The owners do monitor the site but they don't post here to the best of my knowledge (except in the Shark Tank occasionally to let the Mods know something).
 

mike22cha

Active Member
A marbled catsharks max is 24" but averages around 22". You can have it in a 180g for most of its life. That's another topic though, thanks for the answers.
 

1journeyman

Active Member
Originally Posted by MIKE22cha
A marbled catsharks max is 24" but averages around 22". You can have it in a 180g for most of its life. That's another topic though, thanks for the answers.
I disagree because of the shape of a 180. A decent size shark will be almost as long as the tank is wide. I think sharks need large, round tanks.
 

ric maniac

Active Member
Originally Posted by 1journeyman
I disagree because of the shape of a 180. A decent size shark will be almost as long as the tank is wide. I think sharks need large, round tanks.
i dont think for sharks the gallonage matters as much as the foot print of the tank.
 

brenden

Member
Ric Maniac - Your 100% correct. A tanks footprint is more important than the total gallonage of water of which it holds. A 2,000 gallon tank could be 10" wide, 10" high, and say 50' long. Yes, it may be 2,000 gallons but no Shark would ever be able to fit in that sized tank. I have seen 350 gallon tanks that are not big enough for sharks, simply becasue they are tall and skinny. Width and length are the major dimensions to take into consideration when venturing into keeping elasmobranches.
Mike22Cha - Coral Cats, Marbeled Cats, ect May be able to live in a 180 gallon for a few months. But they need atleast 250 gallons, perferable 300 gallons for life. Even this is cutting it, when you see Sharks in the wild, or in large ponds / tanks you will never be able to get your self to shove one in anything less than 500 gallons for life.
As for SWF selling Sharks & Rays, I think what they are doing is very proffesional and ethical with both the Sharks and Hobbiest best interests in mind. I am all for having to prove your credibility before purchasing a species which is a long term commitment. People need to understand what they are doing, this will stop impulse buys from happening, and will help the hobbiest understand the needs and requirments of Sharks in the home aquaria.
 

1journeyman

Active Member
Originally Posted by Brenden
.... Width and length are the major dimensions to take into consideration when venturing into keeping elasmobranches...
Exactly.
 
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