adding all of the fish at once
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alex2089
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Why would you bann me? Ok.. No large angles, triggers, or tangs. Is it possible to have a bicolored angelfish in a 75 as my center piece. I know that it is sensitive to water but if I where put it couple months after the tank has been established is it possible to have it as my centerpiece along with a fox fish and if filefish?
pegasus
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I never said I would ban you... I just said I can't ban" people". There are some people that refuse to take advice, and become argumentative to the point it's not worth the time or effort to try to help any longer. Time is better used assisting those that are willing to follow the advice given, rather than getting into pissing matches with "know-it-alls". If they want to do things their way, why bother with the forum to begin with? All forums have these kinds of clowns, including this one. Not saying you are one... I'm just telling my story about being a moderator.
As for your question... the answer is yes. The only foxface rated for your tank is the Onespot Foxface. A Coral Beauty Angelfish is easier to keep, but that's up to you. Most filefish are rated for 30+ gallons, so you're okay there, too. You may not be able too keep certain corals, as all of these fish can be prone to nipping, but they may not if well fed.
As for your question... the answer is yes. The only foxface rated for your tank is the Onespot Foxface. A Coral Beauty Angelfish is easier to keep, but that's up to you. Most filefish are rated for 30+ gallons, so you're okay there, too. You may not be able too keep certain corals, as all of these fish can be prone to nipping, but they may not if well fed.
flower
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Originally Posted by Pegasus http:///t/397786/adding-all-of-the-fish-at-once/60#post_3547237
As for your question... the answer is yes. The only foxface rated for your tank is the Onespot Foxface. A Coral Beauty Angelfish is easier to keep, but that's up to you. Most filefish are rated for 30+ gallons, so you're okay there, too. You may not be able too keep certain corals, as all of these fish can be prone to nipping, but they may not if well fed.
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Originally Posted by Pegasus http:///t/397786/adding-all-of-the-fish-at-once/60#post_3547237
As for your question... the answer is yes. The only foxface rated for your tank is the Onespot Foxface. A Coral Beauty Angelfish is easier to keep, but that's up to you. Most filefish are rated for 30+ gallons, so you're okay there, too. You may not be able too keep certain corals, as all of these fish can be prone to nipping, but they may not if well fed.
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flower
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Originally Posted by jay0705 http:///t/397786/adding-all-of-the-fish-at-once/60#post_3547242
I have a one spot, coral beauty, purple fire, among other fish in my 75. They all get alone yes. The bi color isnt so much water quality as it is there diet. They can be difficult to convert to a captive diet
Hi,
I have never had any feeding issues with a dwarf angel... All the ones I ever kept ate frozen food straight away.
Originally Posted by jay0705 http:///t/397786/adding-all-of-the-fish-at-once/60#post_3547242
I have a one spot, coral beauty, purple fire, among other fish in my 75. They all get alone yes. The bi color isnt so much water quality as it is there diet. They can be difficult to convert to a captive diet
Hi,
I have never had any feeding issues with a dwarf angel... All the ones I ever kept ate frozen food straight away.
pegasus
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My coral beauty will eat anything I offer it. I don't feed sheet algae, but it's main diet is Cobalt Mysis Spirulina flakes. Same for my yellow tang. Actually, all my fish, even my Orchid Dottyback and Blue Mandarin. They get frozen Mysis once a week, and nothing else. They're all fat and healthy. I have a juvenile Flame Angel that I started on these flakes from day one, and it's thriving on it, too. It satisfies my herbivores AND carnivores, so I'm happy with it.
pegasus
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I have a one spot, coral beauty, purple fire, among other fish in my 75. They all get alone yes. The bi color isnt so much water quality as it is there diet. They can be difficult to convert to a captive diet Bicolored Angels are better suited for (and easier to adjust to captivity in), a mature tank with LOTS of live rock. This is so they can graze on algae and crustaceans. New tanks have neither, so great care must be taken to compensate for this. This can be difficult for a novice to accomplish. Just saying...
jay0705
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Ah very, ive stayed away from them due to there feeding habits. Perhaps there not that difficult. I feed sheet alage to my tangs and fox. I also feed mysis and spriulina brine frozen. New life spectrum pellets and ocean nutrition flake. Also nutramar prawn roe as a treat and to start picky eaters. I dont feed all this the same day. Lol
pegasus
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Originally Posted by alex2089 http:///t/397786/adding-all-of-the-fish-at-once/60#post_3547258
How about a yellow long nose butterfly fish rather than the foxface? Is it possible? I like to rule out everything that cannot be kept and start from there
Yes, it's possible... but... they are very sensitive to even very low levels of ammonia. They require a special butterfly diet. Poor water quality will probably kill this fish quickly. It's not your typical starter fish.
"I like to rule out everything that cannot be kept and start from there"
You can rule out a moray eel, tiger shark, great white shark, bull shark, hammerhead shark, black tip shark, stingray, electric eel, sperm whale, dolphin, orca, manta ray, grouper, tuna, barracuda, etc., etc. I exaggerated, but seriously, the list of what cannot be kept together in a 75 gallon tank could fill a book, so you (and everyone else involved) will be better off considering what WILL work together... in an appropriate sized tank. I'm going out on a limb and guessing this is your first saltwater tank. If so, I HIGHLY suggest you start with some hardy, inexpensive, easy to care for fish and learn the basics before dishing out the bucks for exotic, hard to maintain fish. You'll get discouraged quickly when expensive fish start dying. Learning how to properly maintain a saltwater tank takes time, and often at the expense of innocent fish. It happens all the time.
Originally Posted by alex2089 http:///t/397786/adding-all-of-the-fish-at-once/60#post_3547258
How about a yellow long nose butterfly fish rather than the foxface? Is it possible? I like to rule out everything that cannot be kept and start from there
Yes, it's possible... but... they are very sensitive to even very low levels of ammonia. They require a special butterfly diet. Poor water quality will probably kill this fish quickly. It's not your typical starter fish.
"I like to rule out everything that cannot be kept and start from there"
You can rule out a moray eel, tiger shark, great white shark, bull shark, hammerhead shark, black tip shark, stingray, electric eel, sperm whale, dolphin, orca, manta ray, grouper, tuna, barracuda, etc., etc. I exaggerated, but seriously, the list of what cannot be kept together in a 75 gallon tank could fill a book, so you (and everyone else involved) will be better off considering what WILL work together... in an appropriate sized tank. I'm going out on a limb and guessing this is your first saltwater tank. If so, I HIGHLY suggest you start with some hardy, inexpensive, easy to care for fish and learn the basics before dishing out the bucks for exotic, hard to maintain fish. You'll get discouraged quickly when expensive fish start dying. Learning how to properly maintain a saltwater tank takes time, and often at the expense of innocent fish. It happens all the time.
alex2089
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dammit, i really wanted a dolphin.... you're right, this is my first time, and thats why I'm in the forum ,so that i can have the least casualties.im going to rule out the bicolor angelfish and put in rather a coral beauty or a flaming angelfish really like the long nose butterfly fish (their color and cool mouth is very unique). as far as ammonia goes, i can be extra careful and put it last so that i gets a the smallest ammonia spike. i know that it has a tiny mouth so I'm guessing it eats brine shrimp, and very small commercial foods? what is a butterfly diet?
also this is another rough draft of what is going to be put in (tell me if something needs to be tweaked) by the way this is a fish only aquarium
1 long nose butterflyfish
1 flaming angelfish
1 bangaii cardnalfish
2 false perucla clowns
2 blue-green chromis
2 blue damsels
1 file fish if i can get my hands on one
MAYBE 1 snowflake eel idk
pegasus, how big is you're aquarium? and how much did you flaming angelfish cost? also, are file fish common or are they most likely avelabile online
also this is another rough draft of what is going to be put in (tell me if something needs to be tweaked) by the way this is a fish only aquarium
1 long nose butterflyfish
1 flaming angelfish
1 bangaii cardnalfish
2 false perucla clowns
2 blue-green chromis
2 blue damsels
1 file fish if i can get my hands on one
MAYBE 1 snowflake eel idk
pegasus, how big is you're aquarium? and how much did you flaming angelfish cost? also, are file fish common or are they most likely avelabile online
flower
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Originally Posted by alex2089 http:///t/397786/adding-all-of-the-fish-at-once/60#post_3547270
dammit, i really wanted a dolphin.... you're right, this is my first time, and thats why I'm in the forum ,so that i can have the least casualties.im going to rule out the bicolor angelfish and put in rather a coral beauty or a flaming angelfish really like the long nose butterfly fish (their color and cool mouth is very unique). as far as ammonia goes, i can be extra careful and put it last so that i gets a the smallest ammonia spike. i know that it has a tiny mouth so I'm guessing it eats brine shrimp, and very small commercial foods? what is a butterfly diet?
also this is another rough draft of what is going to be put in (tell me if something needs to be tweaked) by the way this is a fish only aquarium
1 long nose butterflyfish
1 flaming angelfish
1 bangaii cardnalfish
2 false perucla clowns
2 blue-green chromis
2 blue damsels
1 file fish if i can get my hands on one
MAYBE 1 snowflake eel idk
pegasus, how big is you're aquarium? and how much did you flaming angelfish cost? also, are file fish common or are they most likely avelabile online
Damsels are evil little fish that will kill everything on your list...no a butterfly fish does not eat brine shrimp. A simple google of the fish will tell you what they eat.
Originally Posted by alex2089 http:///t/397786/adding-all-of-the-fish-at-once/60#post_3547270
dammit, i really wanted a dolphin.... you're right, this is my first time, and thats why I'm in the forum ,so that i can have the least casualties.im going to rule out the bicolor angelfish and put in rather a coral beauty or a flaming angelfish really like the long nose butterfly fish (their color and cool mouth is very unique). as far as ammonia goes, i can be extra careful and put it last so that i gets a the smallest ammonia spike. i know that it has a tiny mouth so I'm guessing it eats brine shrimp, and very small commercial foods? what is a butterfly diet?
also this is another rough draft of what is going to be put in (tell me if something needs to be tweaked) by the way this is a fish only aquarium
1 long nose butterflyfish
1 flaming angelfish
1 bangaii cardnalfish
2 false perucla clowns
2 blue-green chromis
2 blue damsels
1 file fish if i can get my hands on one
MAYBE 1 snowflake eel idk
pegasus, how big is you're aquarium? and how much did you flaming angelfish cost? also, are file fish common or are they most likely avelabile online
Damsels are evil little fish that will kill everything on your list...no a butterfly fish does not eat brine shrimp. A simple google of the fish will tell you what they eat.
pegasus
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dammit, i really wanted a dolphin.... you're right, this is my first time, and thats why I'm in the forum ,so that i can have the least casualties.im going to rule out the bicolor angelfish and put in rather a coral beauty or a flaming angelfish really like the long nose butterfly fish (their color and cool mouth is very unique). as far as ammonia goes, i can be extra careful and put it last so that i gets a the smallest ammonia spike. i know that it has a tiny mouth so I'm guessing it eats brine shrimp, and very small commercial foods? what is a butterfly diet?
also this is another rough draft of what is going to be put in (tell me if something needs to be tweaked) by the way this is a fish only aquarium
1 long nose butterflyfish
1 flaming angelfish
1 bangaii cardnalfish
2 false perucla clowns
2 blue-green chromis
2 blue damsels
1 file fish if i can get my hands on one
MAYBE 1 snowflake eel idk
pegasus, how big is you're aquarium? and how much did you flaming angelfish cost? also, are file fish common or are they most likely avelabile online
This can work together, although you may want to pass on the snowflake eel. They belong in a big tank with predator fish. They'll eat anything they can get their mouths on. If you get Damsels, I suggest Yellowtails as they stay small. Flower is correct, they are little devils that will attack fish many times their size. Maybe, if they're one of the last fish introduced, you could be okay. I have ONE. My tank is 125 gallons and a 30 gallon refugium, with a total water volume of approximately 140 gallons. I paid $49 with free shipping for my Flame Angel. Filefish are fairly common, and can be purchased online. PJ cardinals are very passive, slow-moving fish that can easily be intimidated by fast moving, fast feeding fish. Unique fish, but boring to watch in the tank.
also this is another rough draft of what is going to be put in (tell me if something needs to be tweaked) by the way this is a fish only aquarium
1 long nose butterflyfish
1 flaming angelfish
1 bangaii cardnalfish
2 false perucla clowns
2 blue-green chromis
2 blue damsels
1 file fish if i can get my hands on one
MAYBE 1 snowflake eel idk
pegasus, how big is you're aquarium? and how much did you flaming angelfish cost? also, are file fish common or are they most likely avelabile online
This can work together, although you may want to pass on the snowflake eel. They belong in a big tank with predator fish. They'll eat anything they can get their mouths on. If you get Damsels, I suggest Yellowtails as they stay small. Flower is correct, they are little devils that will attack fish many times their size. Maybe, if they're one of the last fish introduced, you could be okay. I have ONE. My tank is 125 gallons and a 30 gallon refugium, with a total water volume of approximately 140 gallons. I paid $49 with free shipping for my Flame Angel. Filefish are fairly common, and can be purchased online. PJ cardinals are very passive, slow-moving fish that can easily be intimidated by fast moving, fast feeding fish. Unique fish, but boring to watch in the tank.
alex2089
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Where did you get your flaming angelfish? I Will probably skip on that eel so that my fish don't end up as his dinner. I have another question I would like to connect both inputs and outputs of the two canisters so that I don't have As Many equipment in the aquarium therefore I would like to use PVC .what type of glue can I use to connect the PVC parts together and also what can I use to connect the PVC to the cancer hoses (how can I seal the connection between the 2
flower
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Originally Posted by alex2089 http:///t/397786/adding-all-of-the-fish-at-once/60#post_3547289
And also, what is a butterfly diet?
I think it was a badly executed question...The proper wording: What does a butterfly fish eat, Alex ASSUMED since brine shrimp was tiny, that's what a fish with a needle nose would eat. It took more time to type up the odd way of asking the question, then if he/she just googled...Long nosed Butterfly fish, then Alex would see the tank size, the food needs and anything else one needs to know in order to keep the fish.
I don't mind questions, and there is no such thing as a stupid question, but if we teach Alex where and how to get information on whatever fish he/she is interested in...it will help him/her in the future...It's a great time to be into saltwater fish...the info is out there, and we are blessed to have it.
Originally Posted by alex2089 http:///t/397786/adding-all-of-the-fish-at-once/60#post_3547289
And also, what is a butterfly diet?
I think it was a badly executed question...The proper wording: What does a butterfly fish eat, Alex ASSUMED since brine shrimp was tiny, that's what a fish with a needle nose would eat. It took more time to type up the odd way of asking the question, then if he/she just googled...Long nosed Butterfly fish, then Alex would see the tank size, the food needs and anything else one needs to know in order to keep the fish.
I don't mind questions, and there is no such thing as a stupid question, but if we teach Alex where and how to get information on whatever fish he/she is interested in...it will help him/her in the future...It's a great time to be into saltwater fish...the info is out there, and we are blessed to have it.