Adding sandbed/substrate to a new refugium on an existing tank with fish and coral

chips

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Originally Posted by beaslbob http:///t/389359/adding-sandbed-substrate-to-a-new-refugium-on-an-existing-tank-with-fish-and-coral#post_3440902
I would just put in chaetomorphia and not sand. It will consume nitrates and ammonia as well. Not to mention phosphates and carbon dioxide while returning pods, fish food, and oxygen.
my .02
I am planning on putting chaeto in the fuge. I understand that pods like burrowing in sand, would they have enough to live in with just the chaeto and a BB? one of the reasons I wanted a fuge was to have somewhere that I could frag some of my pink creeper xenia. The way I do that now is cut it and put it on the substrate to let it attach to the some of the aragonite/CC bed that is there. I then put the bottom of a water bottle with a whole cut in it over top of it so the current doesn't blow it away but it still gets a little flow. I then glue it to some rock rubble. I don't like doing this in the DT as it tends to piss off my diamond gobie because there is something on his food bed. I don't want to just cut the xenia and put it in a BB fuge because I don't want it to attach to the glass or wherever it decides to float to and stick. I don't know if sand will work with my method of fragging xenia or not so it may be scrapped and I just put in a coarser aragonite bottom with chaeto, maybe a shaving brush, and some rock rubble. If I can put sand with a thin layer of the coarser aragonite then rock rubble on top of it I may still put some sand in there, but I have heard stories of this method causing problems since the nitrogen gas would get release from the sand and then stuck under the rubble and not make it to the surface.
 

chips

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Originally Posted by spanko http:///t/389359/adding-sandbed-substrate-to-a-new-refugium-on-an-existing-tank-with-fish-and-coral#post_3441045
I would not worry about any "curing" of dry aragonite myself. I would just rinse well and put it in the fuge. I would then take a cupful of sand from the display and add it to the fuge to populate the fuge substrate. I would however in this case stay away from the "live" bagged sand.
Just my opinion.
"No if I really wanted to overcomplicate it I would have started a thread called “Joes method of adding sand to a refuge” LOL"
Perfect!!!
What other sand could I use? I heard of people using play sand, are they talking about the sand you get at the local home improvement store for sandboxes?
 

spanko

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I would stay away from play sand as most contain enough silicates to cause some real problems with diatoms. Again small bag of aragonite smaller grain size not gonna cost much and will give you what you need.
 

beaslbob

Well-Known Member
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Originally Posted by ChipS http:///t/389359/adding-sandbed-substrate-to-a-new-refugium-on-an-existing-tank-with-fish-and-coral/20#post_3441048
I am planning on putting chaeto in the fuge. I understand that pods like burrowing in sand, would they have enough to live in with just the chaeto and a BB? one of the reasons I wanted a fuge was to have somewhere that I could frag some of my pink creeper xenia. The way I do that now is cut it and put it on the substrate to let it attach to the some of the aragonite/CC bed that is there. I then put the bottom of a water bottle with a whole cut in it over top of it so the current doesn't blow it away but it still gets a little flow. I then glue it to some rock rubble. I don't like doing this in the DT as it tends to piss off my diamond gobie because there is something on his food bed. I don't want to just cut the xenia and put it in a BB fuge because I don't want it to attach to the glass or wherever it decides to float to and stick. I don't know if sand will work with my method of fragging xenia or not so it may be scrapped and I just put in a coarser aragonite bottom with chaeto, maybe a shaving brush, and some rock rubble. If I can put sand with a thin layer of the coarser aragonite then rock rubble on top of it I may still put some sand in there, but I have heard stories of this method causing problems since the nitrogen gas would get release from the sand and then stuck under the rubble and not make it to the surface.
Some "worms" need sand but pods no. they will absolutel thrive with just chaeto.
You can also do whatever necessary to frag some corals from time to time by adding rocks, building shelves and so on.
my .02
 
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