Air bubbles good or bad
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murph145
Active Member
air bubblers in saltwater = no good....
take it out and put a powerhead in there in salt water as stated before u just want the surface of the water to be constantly moving .... that exchanges all the carbon dioxide for fresh oxgyen....bubblers are very unnatural in salt water aquariums and can stress the fish like u have stated urs seem to be....
take it out and put a powerhead in there in salt water as stated before u just want the surface of the water to be constantly moving .... that exchanges all the carbon dioxide for fresh oxgyen....bubblers are very unnatural in salt water aquariums and can stress the fish like u have stated urs seem to be....
55gsw
Member
It strips the slime coat off the fish?? I have never, ever heard of that. I read tons of magazines, books, and articles on the net, and never once have I read of this theory. Have you ever seen a surge zone on the reef?? TONS, TONS, TONS of bubbles and I highly doubt the fish are being stripped of their slime coat!
The reason most people don't use the bubblers are because of the salt creep like Ophiura said, that and the fact that 'some' corals are irritated by bubbles being caught underneath them.
The reason most people don't use the bubblers are because of the salt creep like Ophiura said, that and the fact that 'some' corals are irritated by bubbles being caught underneath them.
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tizzo
Guest
And then there's that whole bubble behind the eye thing, which causes a fish to have pop-eye syptoms...
I think they are ugly though, the air bubbles. If they really WERE a sparkling wall like it claims then I could see having one. They do the sparkling wall thing on tv and it looks neat, but in real life I think they are ugly. And yeah, the light reflects off of every bubble causing the water to look cloudy.
I think they are ugly though, the air bubbles. If they really WERE a sparkling wall like it claims then I could see having one. They do the sparkling wall thing on tv and it looks neat, but in real life I think they are ugly. And yeah, the light reflects off of every bubble causing the water to look cloudy.
dogstar
Active Member
Pop eye is cuased by other problems but over saturated water, saturated with to much air can cause a diease that can olso cause a bulgeing of the eyes as well from gases being traped in the blood and lymphatic fluids. This is cause by Gas Bubble Disease ( Emphysematosis ) Kind of like the bends that divers get. The bubbles cause the pressure of the water on the fish to change and this causes gas to be traped in the fish. This is from an articale by Bob Fenner. Air stones dont really make enough bubbles to cause this but a powerhead churning the tiny micro bubbles for long periods of time can. Im not a scientist and its hard to understand most of the articals on this but bottom line imo is that bubbles are not good for most fish and as staded corals and inverts as well.
As far as stripping the slime coat from fish, I am trying some common thinking here and wondering if a skimmer removes who knows what from the water by traping particals with tiny micro bubbles that they come in contact with. And if fish are exposed to these same types of bubbles for long periods of time then how can they not be stripping the coating. Granted that just because I said it doesnt make it true but because noone said it does that make it false? But I guess I could be wrong.
As far as stripping the slime coat from fish, I am trying some common thinking here and wondering if a skimmer removes who knows what from the water by traping particals with tiny micro bubbles that they come in contact with. And if fish are exposed to these same types of bubbles for long periods of time then how can they not be stripping the coating. Granted that just because I said it doesnt make it true but because noone said it does that make it false? But I guess I could be wrong.
cougar
Member
I am one for the bubbles, I have had it for a long time with very healthy fish and I have the bubbles coming up through the live rock. I personally think it is very cool how the live rock seperates a stream into a wall of bubbles. And actually if it is unhealthy for fish, why do mine tend to play in the bubbles all the time. Clowns, dwarf angels, large angels and my anthia all love the bubbles. The only ones that don't pay any attention to the bubbles are my yellow tangs. Although I don't have any corals to be bothered by the bubbles. All you have to do is spend a little extra time wiping off extra salt.
jonny bolt
Member
I had a bendable bubble bar for like 3 months. It looked cool cuz it was buried and zig-zagged under tha LR. But I took it out once I got a Mazi-Jet 1200. I can say positively that the LR that was touched by the bubbles when I had it running, grew coralline algae much, much faster than parts that werent. Just goes to show ya that you need water movement.
I think the bars look too unnatural, but I have seen some cool LR with one of the little bubble stone tucked under it, and the way the bubbles came up through looked natural. Very cool.
I think the bars look too unnatural, but I have seen some cool LR with one of the little bubble stone tucked under it, and the way the bubbles came up through looked natural. Very cool.
55gsw
Member
A good article on gas bubble disease.....
http://www.reefs.org/library/article...ki_phipps.html
http://www.reefs.org/library/article...ki_phipps.html
fishdude14
New Member
Air bubbles will turn your tank into a protien skimmer. you'll get a nasty brown foam at the top of your tank.