Almost ready for 90 gallon stock! Help

lt34

Member
Our 90 gallon is getting near the end of cycling. This is our first saltwater tank. We have 65lbs of LR, 40 lbs of Base Rock (Coquina, don't know the spelling), and 100lbs of LS. We do want a reef tank. I will be taking the Damsels out when cycle completed and return to lfs. We want a peaceful tank and planning on getting some cleaner shrimp possibly today. As we are getting the algae. I know we like the Coral Beauty and the sailfin Tang. Also the Percula Clown (Aquacultured) and Gobies
. What else would you all recommend that are peaceful and beautiful that is easy for the newbie. Also what order should we put them in? Also how much fish? We heard from one lfs 1 inch per gallon and the one we trust more said 1 inch per 5 gallon. That is a huge difference. Someday I would like to know half of what you guys know. Seeing pictures of your tanks is breath taking.
 

lt34

Member
Also, for a 90 gallon tank what tangs can we get. If we get them when they are very small, how long do we have before we need to upgrade to a larger tank?
 

barbiganti

Member
Good questions. Sounds like you're well on your way with the cycling and with what you want to put in the tank as well. The Coral Beauty, Clownfish, and Gobies are all good candidates for your reef tank, although you want to watch the Coral Beauty. Dwarf Angels can be a little nippy at times, so do add with caution. The Sailfin is too aggressive for your setup as an adult. It could work for awhile, but would need to be put into a more active and aggressive community of fish at some point. A better choice would be the yellow tang, or a pair or harem of 3 hippo tangs, or the convict tang. Some other fish that could work in your system would be assessors, chalk basslets, hamlets, some of the smaller anthias (though they tend to be more deep sea reef specialists), chromis damsels, fairy wrasses in the genera Cirrhilabrus and Paracheilinus, possum wrasses, some of the deep reef butterflyfish such as Burgess's, Tinker's, and Mitratus, Fu Manchu lionfish, golden moray eel (this particular moray is peaceful, only reaches 8 inches in length, and has been kept in nanoreefs before), lawnmower (or "scooter") blennies, mandarinfish, a group of about 4 to 5 cardinalfish (such as the pajama cardinal and Banggai caridnal), and tank-raised pseudochromis. As far as how many fish you can keep, the inch per gallon rule is for freshwater tanks. Even the one inch per five gallon rule told to you is pushing it a little. Truth be told, though, the more important factors as to what can go into your tank are mass, girth, and bioload. For instance, you could put probably about 50 chromis damsels or cardinalfish in your tank and still be under bioload. Yet if you had triggers or surgeonfish or large angelfish, you wouldn't be able to keep near as many, both because of aggression issues and also because of the fact that these fish are much larger than chromis, are messier and bolder feeders, and put more pressure on a tank ecosystem's bioload. The bottom line is that a lot of common sense can help you make some of these decisions, and the fact that you're on this board and trying to consult the sources that can give you good information is a great start. Best of luck to you with your tank, and hope this helps.
Brad
 

lt34

Member
Thanks Brad for all your good information. I will be looking up more on the fish you suggested. I know on this board they always said a Hippo shouldn't be in anything less then a 135. That dissappointed me as it is such a beautiful fish. Then they said in the book how they are prone to ich and lateral line/fin disease. Right now I need something easy. I'm hoping within a couple of years to have a 150 gallon or larger. I know this site sells the 1 to 2 inch Hippo's and that was what I was thinking, very small. I didn't get any cleaner shrimp as they thought at the lfs that the damsels will kill them. They said the brown algae will go away and decrease the atinic light amount for a while. I did have them at 8 hours.
Thanks again and I will look up those fish. No eels as my wife is scared of anything that looks like a snake. I would like it, but not her.
 

lt34

Member
I do plan on having Cleaner Shrimp and clean up crew, so the fish needs to leave them alone. My friend has a small tank with a blue damsel and clownfish and put 10 small hermits in there and now just has the shells. The cleaner shrimp at my lfs is only about an inch to 1 1/2 inches in size. I don't know how fast they grow, but I would like them to clean and not be the main course. Also it needs to leave the Coral alone. Anyone else can give me more ideas? The more the better. I appreciate everyones help and can't wait to show some pictures and someday help others like everyone helped me!
 

stanlalee

Active Member
Sailfin tang requires more room than a Hippo tang unless you get a full size hippo (rarely seen in captivity). hippo's are just sensetive to stress/conditions. 90 gallons is too small for the sailfin. fine for a hippo at least for a good while. I am setting up a 90 gallon as well and my stocking list so far are Blue hippo tang (since I already have had it for about 2 months now), Powder Brown tang (or maybe some other tang, not completely decided), Foxface and Maroon clown. I am not too concerned about shrimp and crustasceans and might try a risky for reef fish such as valentini puffer or small niger trigger for kicks. The 1" per 5 gallons is the so called rule but meaningless. For reefs its not conservative enough and all fish dont require the same room. the 1" per 5 gallons would never work for Tangs, Triggers ect like it might for clowns, gobies ect.
 

dmitry

Member
I think a Yellow Tang, Kole Tang, or possibly Convict or Purple Tangs, should be ok in your tank. Any other Tang will have to be moved as it grows too large. I would not recommend a Fu Manchu Lion, as they tend to do poorly in captivity. You might want to also consider a Marine Betta. They tend to be secretive (though I got lucky and mine is always out and about), but are beautiful fish and are extremely hardy. Bangaii or PJ Cardinals, Firefish, Dottybacks (who tend to be aggressive and will chase Firefish around), smaller wrasses, Blennys should be ok in your tank.
 

lt34

Member
If I got the Hippo, I would get the small one such as the 1 to 2 inch size. Should they be put in the tank first to help prevent getting stressed? I do like the lawnmower Blenny also.
 
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