Anemone troubles

[vixen]

Thanks guys.. I dont take much into flaming on boards like these I just found it quite unnecessary.. iand besides, ts kinda pointless fighting over the internet.. whatever happened to face to face confrontations? lol
Anyway...
The smoke that was coming off of him wasnt the usual slimey waste that I seen. This would come off and dissapate into the tank. I'm watching him every so often today and havent seen that.
BUT.
This one is new with him.
When I turned the lights on this am, I noticed he was morphing himself around. When he flipped over, I noticed a few things that looked like bubbles with green on the top. I'll take a pic and post it. Could he just be reproducing?? He has quite a few of them coming off of him.
He was getting along great with the one red anemone, they'd even bump up against each other and the clownfish would swim through them both like a huge tunnel.
I loved how he looked before I added the tube anemone. I'm really regretting getting them at all. I just couldnt believe what happened overnight. I dont like seeing him like this. I didnt intend on putting something in the tank and something go wrong. I wanted him to flourish like he has been.
As for feeding it. That has to be the oddest thing I have EVER seen. They grab it right off of the stick. Course, watching my plate coral eat and open his mouth was quite the scene too!
I have been reading a lot today.. kids father have them so I have time to catch up on this. It is a huge learning experience and I honestly dont think you can learn enough about this. There is so much information that one day wont give me enough time
Also.. what is the general consensus on moray eels? NO IM NOT ADDING IT TO THAT TANK From what I gathered they're not that diffcult to keep. We're considering getting a 100 gal and wanted to know from personal experiences on the morays. More specifically the Zebra Moray. If they're not a good idea just let me know and I'll consider something else.
Thanks once again guys

 

[vixen]

Heres the green things that appeared overnight. Any ideas or is he a goner?

 

[spsfreak100]

Vixen,
The anemone is dead. You're best taking it out of the tank as soon as you can. If you want something hardy for your clowns to host in, I would recommend a leather, such as the Toadstool. They resemble anemones, yet they're much hardier. They should do fine in your tank. As with most corals, make sure you have a steady calcium and alkalinity level. Leathers will utilize calcium
He was getting along great with the one red anemone, they'd even bump up against each other and the clownfish would swim through them both like a huge tunnel.
This bumping may have been a sign of physical warfare. As I stated before, I don't think the tube anemone would have cuased this, when there are many more factors to consider. I'm sorry for your loss, Vixen.
Take Care,
Graham

 

[sammystingray]

You guys are getting on SPSfreak, but in the end he was right......yes? I did not see anything wrong with his original post, he gave our new member VERY good advice, and that's what folks come here for.
Vixen, as you can see, many folks here are passionate about the hobby, and I'm so glad you decided to join us.......too bad it had to be with a problem issue, but still......welcome aboard, and we hope to hear more from you. You did come for the facts and truth right??
SPS.....great advice as usual....sometimes the truth sounds harsh....but it is still the truth.....anything else won't help. Please keep giving the advice you have been.......I thought your post was A+, and I know you were just trying to help. Nice to see when folks get on you......you still come back trying to help.....thumbs up my friend.
Vixen.....again, welcome aboard.

 

[vixen]

Yes the truth may hurt, but being harsh about it especially to a beginner doesnt help matters at all.. but whatever. If someone wants to be rude then dont reply.. thats the way I've always been on boards and always will. No need to be rude. Not eveyone started off knowing everything so a little compassion goes a long way. Besides, being harsh and/or rude kinda turns people away.. If it makes someone feel like a bigger person so be it.
I'm a year away from obtaining my masters degree in information technology.. I'm sure I can and domake peoples heads spin with my knowledge, but I take the time to explain it as thorougly and as non-intimidating as I can. Never once did I make someone feel stupid no matter how simple the question was.
Anyway.. I feel bad for what happened to my anemone, but I think I've learned my lesson when it comes to that. I never intended to put a fish in there just to die. I even buy frozen shrimp because I couldnt put live ones in there.
Im sure this is the first of many upsets in my tank, and I learned from it.
Thanks for the help guys

 

[sammystingray]

Skilos...you are a great member as well.....let's please not argue OK? If he came back and edited it....then your point was taken and that's good. I realize that folks new to the hobby don't really like to hear they are messing up, but I think in the long run it will help them. I personally HATE being told I am wrong, but sometimes I need it. You guys are both good members, and if I had star stickers or badges to give out.....you would both get one..... There was an obvious lack of research by our new member.....two VHOs, at 110 watts I'm guessing each, since it is probably 48 inch tank.....not very much light.....that is fact.
Vixen.....again, I'm sorry to see you just sign up and see these issues, but this goes with every board. Telling someone they should have researched more.......this is not an insult, and it does not mean someone is lacking intelligence........it's just a reminder of how sensitive saltwater creatures can be...
The same thing is said to stock brokers, bankers, engineers in many areas, and even scientists........we have them all here.......reminding someone to research is NOT an insult to their intelligence.....these folks obviously have high intelligence, and many have careers and/or thoughts and ideas to prove it.
What would you say to someone who bought a dog and fed the dog nothing but tomatoes?? These are living things, and regardless of a members intelligence, sometimes we need to be reminded to research before buying a living creatures that we should know we can care for them correctly.....some say fish are throw away items, others respect them as any living thing........we are simply going to have these debates until the end of time....our new member vixen has come for help.....so we can tell this person does care....
these arguments are of course a turn off to new members, so lets not go through it every time.
Vixen......anemones are a very hot topic because of the length they live in tanks compared to the hundreds of years in the wild.....if you have a real interest in the hobby of saltwater......I promise you will end up in these debates as well..... A little bit of heated debate is nothing compared to the knowledge you can gain on these boards. We are like a family here.....hehehehe......your family never argues??

 

[ryebread]

Skilos you dummy! You forgot to mention research.

 

[spsfreak100]

I think a 6 pack will cheer us all up
Take Care,
Graham

 

[sammystingray]

BTW, vixen you posted while I was thinking and typing.....a masters? You prove my point....telling someone to research the hobby is NOT an insult to anyones intelligence......obviously you are not lacking
in that area, and we have many many other professionals on this board.....they will hear the same thing. You are admittedly a "beginner" in the hobby, and although you may be highly intelligent and successful....please just take advice with a grain of salt and never be offended......believe me it is tough sometimes in a format like this, but believe me here as well.....you will do better to listen to SPS than some sugar coated nonsense that doesn't help at all.....he loves the creatures of the sea.......trust me, those are the folks to help you.
hahahaha, once again..... welcome, and a dramatic entrance isn't always a bad thing.

 

[sammystingray]

Also vixen....don't forget, there are not living creatures at stake in your field......so even though it is an important field of work, a living creature won't die from mistakes......I'm sure screw ups are not a good thing in any field, but I hope you see what I mean. The longer you stay on these boards, the more you learn.....about the sea, the creatures, the raping of the reefs, the money grubbers killing fish for profit, the lack of concern of the decline, etc etc etc......when you stay on these boards, you end up learning much more than how to keep a fish alive........ if you care to learn more. The seas are a beautiful and poorly understood place.....outer space is more explored than our own oceans...
When I first started in the hobby, the fish were truly nothing more than an impressive setup to show off, and for my personal enjoyment......you truly do think differently after awhile. I'm pushing ten years in the hobby now, and I really do understand, after years of reading and learning, why people get passionate about the creatures. Please never be offended...perhaps the person that is on you about mistakes just really respects the life in the sea.
I hope to see more posts by you in the near future.

 

[kyaney]

This is how I always do it. Not saying that it is right or the only way, but it works for me. I drip water into the bag very slowly for 3-4 hours. I then put it in the tank, still in the bag, with the lights out for about 2 hours. After all that, I finally let it loose. I have 12 of them and haven't lost one yet.

 

[vixen]

Nah.. not saying someone 'insulted' me.. Just saying sometimes harshness isnt right
I do agree I should've done more research before I did my tank.. I should've started that before I even considered this tank.
But then is the question.. how do you know who is telling you is the right thing to do? Example. My anemome. One fish 'expert' told me to remove it from the tank. Another 'expert' told me not to worry about it?
I dont want this to happen again. I'm sure even with research I'm going to have mistakes. Dealing with living things is a little harder to do than working with whiny users and a mainframe thats moodier than I am Its a living creature not just a hunk of metal.
AHHHHHH.. enough already. Sounds like we're all back in kindergarden. 'Sally pulled my hair mommy' 'nu uh'. geesh.
So all it takes is for someone to understand not eveyone is an expert in this.. take the time to explain it to someone to help them learn from their mistakes. Criticism doesnt teach.. makes someone feel like a total a$$ for it.
I do respect life from the sea.. I didnt intend on going into this hobby as making it one expensive massacre in my tank. I'm planning on doing this a lot longer than just a few months here. I never intended on this anemone dying.. or any of my fish for that matter (which none so far).
I do understand the people who take this as their personal lives. Every last one of my pets are like my furry kids. They even eat better than I do at times lmao. I came here to learn about my mistakes and potential mistakes so I can have a successful tank that everyone here can enjoy.

 

[vixen]

btw.. my weimariner eats the tomatoes out of the garden.