Anemonie -stuff coming out of him
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vikki7
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Ok, I told you there was a sad story behind all this.
My husband bought me the Nano Cube 12 gal tank for Christmas. It came with a LR and gravel and 2 clowns,
one spider looking thing, and a featherduster, who is still
in the tank.
All of a sudden the Nitrates jumped sky high... as High on the chart as they can go. I have done everying .. water changes......test, test, test, test......
All fish and things died..... two weeks after Christmas.
Nitrates still high, so continued to do water changes and try to get them down... my anamonie and feather duster seemed to not be bothered, but they are looking bad.
OH yea..in the meantime I got these horrible little milipede bugs .. no fish in the tank and they multiplied like rabbits.
they got into alll the algea on the back on my tank.
The store owner told me to get a clean up crew... I did
consisted of crabs...... 6 and 3 snails.. the snails immediately ate all the algea off the back of the tank.
things seemed to look clear, but last night.. my two clowns
..well, I noticed white spots and took it to be ICH.
Now my clowns are out of the tank, but what about the ICH..
does it destroy the LR and LS etc....
I am so lost as to what to do, I have rinsed my sponges
not the charcole or the rubber rings or bioballs.....
The light prob needs to be changed as it is 7 months old.
But how to get the Nitrate down I dont know.
I was so happy and was just in love with the tank....something I always wanted and I can not get it to work.
My husband bought me the Nano Cube 12 gal tank for Christmas. It came with a LR and gravel and 2 clowns,
one spider looking thing, and a featherduster, who is still
in the tank.
All of a sudden the Nitrates jumped sky high... as High on the chart as they can go. I have done everying .. water changes......test, test, test, test......
All fish and things died..... two weeks after Christmas.
Nitrates still high, so continued to do water changes and try to get them down... my anamonie and feather duster seemed to not be bothered, but they are looking bad.
OH yea..in the meantime I got these horrible little milipede bugs .. no fish in the tank and they multiplied like rabbits.
they got into alll the algea on the back on my tank.
The store owner told me to get a clean up crew... I did
consisted of crabs...... 6 and 3 snails.. the snails immediately ate all the algea off the back of the tank.
things seemed to look clear, but last night.. my two clowns
..well, I noticed white spots and took it to be ICH.
Now my clowns are out of the tank, but what about the ICH..
does it destroy the LR and LS etc....
I am so lost as to what to do, I have rinsed my sponges
not the charcole or the rubber rings or bioballs.....
The light prob needs to be changed as it is 7 months old.
But how to get the Nitrate down I dont know.
I was so happy and was just in love with the tank....something I always wanted and I can not get it to work.
vikki7
Member
Originally posted by Vikki7
Ok, I told you there was a sad story behind all this.
My husband bought me the Nano Cube 12 gal tank for Christmas. It came with a LR and gravel and 2 clowns,
one spider looking thing, and a featherduster, who is still
in the tank.
All of a sudden the Nitrates jumped sky high... as High on the chart as they can go. I have done everying .. water changes......test, test, test, test......
All fish and things died..... two weeks after Christmas.
Nitrates still high, so continued to do water changes and try to get them down... my anamonie and feather duster seemed to not be bothered, but they are looking bad.
OH yea..in the meantime I got these horrible little milipede bugs .. no fish in the tank and they multiplied like rabbits.
they got into alll the algea on the back on my tank.
The store owner told me to get a clean up crew... I did
consisted of crabs...... 6 and 3 snails.. the snails immediately ate all the algea off the back of the tank.
things seemed to look clear, but last night.. my two clowns
..well, I noticed white spots and took it to be ICH.
Now my clowns are out of the tank, but what about the ICH..
does it destroy the LR and LS etc....
I am so lost as to what to do, I have rinsed my sponges
not the charcole or the rubber rings or bioballs.....
The light prob needs to be changed as it is 7 months old.
But how to get the Nitrate down I dont know.
I was so happy and was just in love with the tank....something I always wanted and I can not get it to work.
BTW- fish ate the bugs off the back of the tank.. and they are all gone.
salty cheese
Active Member
Was the tank ever cycled?
What kind of filtration do you have?
What kind of lights?
Did all the live stock get added all at once?
I could be wrong but I've heard you shouldn't try to keep an anemone in a tank that small, water quality is parramount when keeping one and in a nano that is much more difficult.
What kind of filtration do you have?
What kind of lights?
Did all the live stock get added all at once?
I could be wrong but I've heard you shouldn't try to keep an anemone in a tank that small, water quality is parramount when keeping one and in a nano that is much more difficult.
vikki7
Member
I have a Nano Cube 12 gal factory filter, sponge, charcole,
rubber rings, etc.. all that came with the tank.
The lights came with the tank too.
Cycled? I am not even sure at this point.
The filters, and all are dirty and grimy.... the store
where it was purchased sent it home with us that way.
Could this be a problem in not getting the Nitrates down.
There were too many fish in the tank at one time.
I learned the hard way. I had a yellow tang 2 clowns
feather duster and the anemonie.
the feather duster and the anemonie is all that is left.
I have 2 new clowns in a QT tank at present time
because they have ICH.
MY nitrate4s are high
nothing i do brings it down.
The LR has green algea all over it and the anemm is sick looking
not pink any more but more brown and is giving off this slimmy stuff.. (see pic above)
How do I get nitrates down
Anything else i need
I know the lights need to be changed but no one around here has any so I am not doing well in that department either.
Would you suggest just taking out the Anemonie
It seems like he causes the tank to be dirty but there is so much other stuff I dont know about that could be the cause too.
Nitrates were NOT too high until I brought the Anemonie home.. but it could be a concidence.
Dirty filters too possibly?
If so, what do I do to fix that problem.
I dont want to get rid of any "good bacteria" that may be in there.
When this all started and I had no fish in the tank
it took 6 weeks to try and get the nitrates down.
then it seemed like they were getting down... but spiked again
Actually, the trates have spiked since two weeks after Christmas.
rubber rings, etc.. all that came with the tank.
The lights came with the tank too.
Cycled? I am not even sure at this point.
The filters, and all are dirty and grimy.... the store
where it was purchased sent it home with us that way.
Could this be a problem in not getting the Nitrates down.
There were too many fish in the tank at one time.
I learned the hard way. I had a yellow tang 2 clowns
feather duster and the anemonie.
the feather duster and the anemonie is all that is left.
I have 2 new clowns in a QT tank at present time
because they have ICH.
MY nitrate4s are high
nothing i do brings it down.
The LR has green algea all over it and the anemm is sick looking
not pink any more but more brown and is giving off this slimmy stuff.. (see pic above)
How do I get nitrates down
Anything else i need
I know the lights need to be changed but no one around here has any so I am not doing well in that department either.
Would you suggest just taking out the Anemonie
It seems like he causes the tank to be dirty but there is so much other stuff I dont know about that could be the cause too.
Nitrates were NOT too high until I brought the Anemonie home.. but it could be a concidence.
Dirty filters too possibly?
If so, what do I do to fix that problem.
I dont want to get rid of any "good bacteria" that may be in there.
When this all started and I had no fish in the tank
it took 6 weeks to try and get the nitrates down.
then it seemed like they were getting down... but spiked again
Actually, the trates have spiked since two weeks after Christmas.
T
thomas712
Guest
I don't even know where to begin.
First of all check the light bulb on the tank for any writing on it and tell us what it says.
(I'm looking for something that will tell me if it is PC, VHO or just normal output lights, if you see any numbers then give me that as well)
Next please post actual test scores if you can.
What type of water are you using to do water changes?
What type of salt?
Now I'm not sure I have your story right. OK.. YOu got the tank for Xmas and it came with goodies. Was it setup right away? Did this include the water? The water that was in the tank when it was at the LFS?
If not then you are definatly experiencing a cycle. If it did and you had filters that came with it then it sounds like you are experiencing a recycle. Either way its bad for your inhabitants. Very bad. OR possibly it was setup at the LFS but without clowns and an anemone, then you put them in and sent the bio load up to fast setting off a recycle.
Give me answeres to those questions and we will go from there.
Thomas
First of all check the light bulb on the tank for any writing on it and tell us what it says.
(I'm looking for something that will tell me if it is PC, VHO or just normal output lights, if you see any numbers then give me that as well)
Next please post actual test scores if you can.
What type of water are you using to do water changes?
What type of salt?
Now I'm not sure I have your story right. OK.. YOu got the tank for Xmas and it came with goodies. Was it setup right away? Did this include the water? The water that was in the tank when it was at the LFS?
If not then you are definatly experiencing a cycle. If it did and you had filters that came with it then it sounds like you are experiencing a recycle. Either way its bad for your inhabitants. Very bad. OR possibly it was setup at the LFS but without clowns and an anemone, then you put them in and sent the bio load up to fast setting off a recycle.
Give me answeres to those questions and we will go from there.
Thomas
vikki7
Member
Thomas,
BTW- THE Anemonie met his death last night....
We took him out of the tank by breaking the LR he was attatched too. Stuborn thing..... now my tank looks much cleaner..... But tonight... I still noticed the striny stuff.
It looks kinda like spider webs.. with bubbles in them only kinda slimy too. YUK.. it goes away in time.
Would it be coming out of the big snail I have in there?
Next,
The light numbers are.... PL-24W 110V
+10000K
At the moment I am buying my water, and my tests
are all in the normal range except for NiTRATE.
It is high.
I got the tank for Christmas. I was a cycled 6 month old tank when it was purchased. It was brought to my home on Christmas eve with a NEW LR because my husband and daughter switched out the 6month old on because they did not like it... The tank came with all its water with 2 clowns which had been in there for 6 months, they added a feather duster, a spider looking crab thing, goby..... at this time there was not any LS in the tank.
After NITRATE spiked all my fish died, I left the tank alone for a while, then decided to add one more LR and take out the gravel that came with the tank and add LS.
OH YEA the filters and bio balls, rings etc had never been cleaned.
The lights have never been changed to date.
This is out of context but I did add the anemone about two to three weeks after getting the tank along with a Yellow Tang which I know know was not right and he did not belong in the tank..... tank too small to house either.
I still have two clowns.. they are in the QT tank because I saw ICH on them a couple days ago.
The only thing left in the tank is 2 LR and LS and Feather duster, 7 crabs and three snails.
Oh yes I can not forget those darn millipede bugs.. which are now back.. the Clowns loved to eat them.
Hope this helps......
My tank does look pretty clear again.....
but I dont have my clowns back in the tank.
BTW- THE Anemonie met his death last night....
We took him out of the tank by breaking the LR he was attatched too. Stuborn thing..... now my tank looks much cleaner..... But tonight... I still noticed the striny stuff.
It looks kinda like spider webs.. with bubbles in them only kinda slimy too. YUK.. it goes away in time.
Would it be coming out of the big snail I have in there?
Next,
The light numbers are.... PL-24W 110V
+10000K
At the moment I am buying my water, and my tests
are all in the normal range except for NiTRATE.
It is high.
I got the tank for Christmas. I was a cycled 6 month old tank when it was purchased. It was brought to my home on Christmas eve with a NEW LR because my husband and daughter switched out the 6month old on because they did not like it... The tank came with all its water with 2 clowns which had been in there for 6 months, they added a feather duster, a spider looking crab thing, goby..... at this time there was not any LS in the tank.
After NITRATE spiked all my fish died, I left the tank alone for a while, then decided to add one more LR and take out the gravel that came with the tank and add LS.
OH YEA the filters and bio balls, rings etc had never been cleaned.
The lights have never been changed to date.
This is out of context but I did add the anemone about two to three weeks after getting the tank along with a Yellow Tang which I know know was not right and he did not belong in the tank..... tank too small to house either.
I still have two clowns.. they are in the QT tank because I saw ICH on them a couple days ago.
The only thing left in the tank is 2 LR and LS and Feather duster, 7 crabs and three snails.
Oh yes I can not forget those darn millipede bugs.. which are now back.. the Clowns loved to eat them.
Hope this helps......
My tank does look pretty clear again.....
but I dont have my clowns back in the tank.
T
thomas712
Guest
Ah ha.
Cycled tank, but NEW live rock. This could have caused a spike in ammonia which produced slime, mucus, expelling of zooxanthellae in the anemone...at least its possible.
Also not enough light for any anemone it only looks like a 24 watt standard bulb. This would have been stressful to the anemone.
Nitrate does not spike all by itself, it is the result of a breakdown of ammonia and nitrites so you definatly had a spike in all three. Ammonia and NitrItes would have definatly affected the anemone in so small of tank. In fact it would have affected any living thing.
Now the slime or stringy stuff you see could have come out of the anemone could have been its zooxanthellae and if it was then you had dead or dieing dinoflagolates on your hands setting off more ammonia and fouling your water feeding your algae blooms.
If your clowns have ich then unfortunatly you will need to leave this tank fishless for quite some time now. Bummer
Bad things happen fast in small tanks.
Thomas
Cycled tank, but NEW live rock. This could have caused a spike in ammonia which produced slime, mucus, expelling of zooxanthellae in the anemone...at least its possible.
Also not enough light for any anemone it only looks like a 24 watt standard bulb. This would have been stressful to the anemone.
Nitrate does not spike all by itself, it is the result of a breakdown of ammonia and nitrites so you definatly had a spike in all three. Ammonia and NitrItes would have definatly affected the anemone in so small of tank. In fact it would have affected any living thing.
Now the slime or stringy stuff you see could have come out of the anemone could have been its zooxanthellae and if it was then you had dead or dieing dinoflagolates on your hands setting off more ammonia and fouling your water feeding your algae blooms.
If your clowns have ich then unfortunatly you will need to leave this tank fishless for quite some time now. Bummer
Bad things happen fast in small tanks.
Thomas
vikki7
Member
Thanks Thomas,
Even with the Anemonie gone, 24 hours now...
I still see the cob webb looking stuff......
How do I get rid of it?
I did change out my charcole, and cleaned 2 bio balls.
rinsed one of my sponges as to not shock the rest of the cycle.
Nitrates did not seem to bee so bad today.. but they were high.
I never did notice a spike in ammonia, or anthing except Ni TRATES.. wonder why?
My Clownes are still swimming in the QT... and I would love to get them back in there home.. but I am afraid to put them in there.. not knowing really what it is that you are saying....
I need to read up on those words and think about what I did.
Approx how long now before any fish can go back in there?
Even with the Anemonie gone, 24 hours now...
I still see the cob webb looking stuff......
How do I get rid of it?
I did change out my charcole, and cleaned 2 bio balls.
rinsed one of my sponges as to not shock the rest of the cycle.
Nitrates did not seem to bee so bad today.. but they were high.
I never did notice a spike in ammonia, or anthing except Ni TRATES.. wonder why?
My Clownes are still swimming in the QT... and I would love to get them back in there home.. but I am afraid to put them in there.. not knowing really what it is that you are saying....
I need to read up on those words and think about what I did.
Approx how long now before any fish can go back in there?
T
thomas712
Guest
Originally posted by Vikki7
My Clownes are still swimming in the QT...
.. but I am afraid to put them in there..
Approx how long now before any fish can go back in there?
Are you preforming hypo salinity? or treating them in any way for the suspected ick?
If not then you have some reading to do.
https://www.saltwaterfish.com/vb/show...hreadid=127007
vikki7
Member
I was treating them for ICH, and have been watching and cleaning the tank daily.
keeping all the junk from settling to the bottom and
am going to put some PVC pipe into the tank.
The fish look pretty good tonight, playing and swimming.
I dont want to get into a hurry...
I also, want my main tank to have a good environment when they return to their home.
keeping all the junk from settling to the bottom and
am going to put some PVC pipe into the tank.
The fish look pretty good tonight, playing and swimming.
I dont want to get into a hurry...
I also, want my main tank to have a good environment when they return to their home.