Angel twitching

spsfreak100

Active Member
I have decided to try and rescue the life of a red sea juvinile regal angelfish. Out of a total of 6 fish, this was the only one not sold. It was swimming awkwardly (on its side) and not eating anything. I felt that it would be worth it to save the life of this fish, and for only $9.99 (discounted because it was likely going to die), I bought it.
I added it to a 10 gallon quarantine tank for a few days to make sure it was okay. It immediately stopped swimming on its side after leaving the holding tank. Once it the quarantine tank it was extremely shy and reclusive. 48 hours later I was able to coax the small fish to accept some sponges, Angel foruma, and mysids. It appeared otherwise completely normal and healthy. No signs of disease (after being in the US for almost a week now) or abnormalities in the QT, and it was eating. Yesterday I made the plunge to add it to the main tank with a school of 11 bartletts anthias. It's very reclusive, although it will occasionally come out and then quickly swim back into a cave in the rockwork. It doesn't go out to eat with the other fish, although it will consume anything that floats into the cave.
Now, here's the problem. I've noticed the angel having a few very quick "spasms" or twitching of the fins. It isn't scratching on the rock/sand and it doesn't appear to have any parasites. It's just a very quick twitching of the fins every once in while. I've only seen this happen twice in the last day and a half. I've also noticed the fish trying to be cleaned by the cleaner shrimp. I don't usually test my water for Ammonia, Nitrite, or Nitrate, although I'm assuming these are all undetectable. pH ranges from 7.95 (morning) to 8.10 (night). There is usually never more than a 1.5 hange in pH within a 24 hour period. Temperature is steady at 79 degrees F., and Salinity is 1.024. The fishes breathing is normal and there is no discolored patches on the fish. Let me know if this is just a normal behaviour of a new (and stressed) fish.
Graham
 

beth

Administrator
Staff member
The twitching could be a sign of parasites. Commonly that is a sign of parasites. Graham, better to leave a new fish in QT for a full 3 wks, especially a fish that you know was sick when you got him.
Do you know if he had ich, or did you notice any ich in the tanks at the LFS.
Good of you to try and save the fish.
 

spsfreak100

Active Member
Hey Beth,
Thanks for your reply!
I know I should have left the fish in the QT longer than a few days. I just felt that it would be best for the fish to be with as much of a food source as soon as possible.
Do you know if he had ich, or did you notice any ich in the tanks at the LFS.
I've looked at him many times within the past hour with a flashlight (the tank lights are off) and I see no signs of ich or any parasites. None of the other fish had ich, either (this is a wholesaler, so they have copper in their tanks). I don't see any way that the fish would be exposed to ich or parisites with all of the copper in the water. Or, am I mistaken in that the ich/parasites have died within the few days in copper?
Thanks again for your reply beth! Take Care!
Graham
PS. Here's a picture of the angelfish aclamating:
 

beth

Administrator
Staff member
That's a nice lookin' fish! Keep an eye on him. He was obviously ill when you got him and it will take time to recoup. The good treatment you are now providing may be all that is needed. When you observe him, use a magnifying glass. Check the gills, breathing, fins and, of course, look for any telltale spots.
Try target feeding with a turkey baster soaking food in fresh garlic. If he has some minor parasite, the garlic and the biological cleaner may just do the trick. Garlic is good all around food supplement for new fish.
A few days in copper treatment will not effectively eliminate ich or any parasite. For 100%, a full 3 wks of copper is needed at therapeutic levels with diligent testing using a compatible copper test kit. I know sellers can not and do not effectively treat their livestock. By dosing with formalin or copper, sellers do effectively retard or delay the inevitable. In other words, by dosing short-term, they can keep the fish looking healthy until the fish gets home to the hobbyist's fish tank. Copper is a poor choice for angels, butterflies and tangs, IMO. The shaking you are seeing could even be a reaction or over-reaction to the medication. Do you know if fomalin was used at all?
 

baboon

Member
SPSfreak, My Purple Tang did the exact same thing before developing Ich. He would have twitching "spasms" of the fins. Althought it may not be Ich, I just wanted to let you know what it was with my experience. Godd luck with the fish.
 

logen32

Member
my harliliquen tusk twitched and soon after ich started to appear on him so it might be ich or some parasites.
 

spsfreak100

Active Member
Here's an update:
The fish is already starting to eat prepared foods -- mainly mysids. I have seen no signs of ich, however, the twitching does occure at odd intervels. It's also starting to fatten up and get larger. I'm very happy with how well the fish is done. Here's an updated shot of the fish.
Graham
 

beth

Administrator
Staff member
That's good news! You do have grounding probes installed in tank, fuge, sump, correct? If not, do so. Tangs and angels especially are prone to sensitivity of stray voltage and "twitching" is a common symptom of that.
 

fatpuffer

Member
how did you get your fish to eat prepared foods so quickly? From my understanding of this particular angel, it's very picky and it's staple diet in the wild are sponges. I was advised against purchasing it just b/c of it's feeding habits, but glad to see you got it to eat already. Please share any tips for this particular fish if you have any-i'm interested in adding one of my own or an imperator to my tank.
 
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