angels that mix

[pool boy]

I have started a 90 gallon tank earlier this year, 8 months ago. Water quality is great. I added the fish slowly due to Bio-load. All live sand and about 50 lbs of live rock. Here is what I added. 2 clowns, one month later 1 Flame angel, one month later 1 Yellow tang, One month later 1 Blue Face Angel.
Over the weekend I added an Asfur Angel aka, Arabian Angel. The Asfur is beating the crap out of the Blue face. They are about the same size.
I had to take the blue face to my brothers 150 gallon to nurse back.
I really liked the blue Face. Is there any way they can get along? Is it due that they are both Pomacanthus species?
The Asfur is doing great now. Does not bother anything else in the tank.
Are Asfur Angels That agressive? What other Angel fish would work in this situation. I tend to like the shapes and colors of the Angel species.

 

[geridoc]

You have it figured correctly. Pomocanthenes will not share a 90 gallon tank - you would have to go much larger and provide plenty of rockwork for hiding. And, yes, Asfurs ave generally aggressive. I share your frustration. I love the pomocanthns angels, but they are what they are.

 

[pool boy]

also, I was told that I did not need a Protien Skimmer. Is this true? I am pumping 1,027 GPH. I do have an UV steri.

 

[rotarymagic]

If you're not running a skimmer, a growing poma genus angel will nuke that tank in relatively little time. At least run a turf scrubber or something else to export nutrients, a skimmer helps pull excess food and such out of the system before they enter the nitrogen cycle.
Most people recommend at least a 180gallon for an adult Poma.

 

[errattiq]

2 Pomacanthus angels will definitely NOT mix in a 90.. even with the dwarf angel (flame) your kind of lucky you didn't get some sort of aggression there too. With that size system and the bioload you've described getting a protein skimmer will be a miracle worker that will save you tons of $$$$ in the long run. 50lbs of liverock in a 90 gallon tank is also very small, you need at least 1-2lbs per gallon of water volume... Liverock is a very effective means of biological filtration, and whoever told you you didn't need a protein skimmer obviously didn't know you were lacking that much liverock and had that many(or types of) fish lol. Actually, as your liverock poundage raises, the need for a skimmer decreases, and vice versa...Although your most always better off with a skimmer as a supplement... Hope this helps!! Just don't want to see you spend unnecessary $$$ trying things that will definitely not work... As the saying goes in this hobby, spend more money now, and you'll save a fortune down the road!
-Josh P.

 

[pool boy]

Thanks for the advice. I was probably off a little on the LR. I started with about 50lbs and now am up to about 80lbs. Large pieces with plenty of overhangs and places to hide. I add nice pieces I tend to find when they come in. I will go out and invest in a Protien Skimmer this week.
I just got back into the hobby. I had a 135 gallon but did not feel like moving it 3 years ago. Missed it and now am back. Love it.
The compact coralife light system is like night and day compared to the regular florecent lights I had in the early 90s.

 

[rotarymagic]

Originally Posted by Pool Boy
http:///forum/post/2783789
Thanks for the advice. I was probably off a little on the LR. I started with about 50lbs and now am up to about 80lbs. Large pieces with plenty of overhangs and places to hide. I add nice pieces I tend to find when they come in. I will go out and invest in a Protien Skimmer this week.
I just got back into the hobby. I had a 135 gallon but did not feel like moving it 3 years ago. Missed it and now am back. Love it.
The compact coralife light system is like night and day compared to the regular florecent lights I had in the early 90s.
a 2bulb T5ho system would be leaps and bounds over a PC and probably consume less electricity while putting out way more light.