another newbie question

rcranf

rcranf

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Ill be setting up my 125g tank tomorrow since I now have everything, I will pick up my LR in morning. Just wondering when I set this up should I wait for the tank to cycle before adding my LS or add it at the same time I ad my LR? Also when should I add the clean up crew I heard so many different things as to when to add them? Also what is the recommend starting clean up crew for a 125g
 
jerryatrick

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Originally Posted by rcranf
http:///forum/post/2705497
Ill be setting up my 125g tank tomorrow since I now have everything, I will pick up my LR in morning. Just wondering when I set this up should I wait for the tank to cycle before adding my LS or add it at the same time I ad my LR? Also when should I add the clean up crew I heard so many different things as to when to add them? Also what is the recommend starting clean up crew for a 125g
Add the LR first then add the LS. Wait till your tank cycles then slowly add the CUC. You are going to get a lot of recommendations for a CUC so I am not going to touch that one.
 
rcranf

rcranf

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Originally Posted by JerryAtrick
http:///forum/post/2705505
Add the LR first then add the LS. Wait till your tank cycles then slowly add the CUC. You are going to get a lot of recommendations for a CUC so I am not going to touch that one.
so after I put in the LR goahead and put in the LS? No need to wait for the cycle to add the LS? Just asking because I was told I would get detrious all in the sand and thats not a good thing. Any truth to that?
 
jerryatrick

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You are going to have die off from the LR and LS no matter when you introduce it to a tank. IMO if you wait till the cycle is over and add the LS you run the risk of causing a secondary cycle.
 
kaingers

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Add them at the same time. Be sure that your LR is on the bottom glass and not on top of the LS. You can add the crew immediately. Only fish will produce detrius, and if you have a good crew you won't have to worry about that. I am guessing you are going for a reef? IMO go with 30+ astrea snails, 5+ turbo snails, 20+ nassarius snails, 25+ crabs, 3+ emerald crabs. "+" because you could always go big and get more. Keep the Q's coming!
 
jerryatrick

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Originally Posted by kaingers
http:///forum/post/2705521
Add them at the same time. Be sure that your LR is on the bottom glass and not on top of the LS. You can add the crew immediately. Only fish will produce detrius, and if you have a good crew you won't have to worry about that. I am guessing you are going for a reef? IMO go with 30+ astrea snails, 5+ turbo snails, 20+ nassarius snails, 25+ crabs, 3+ emerald crabs. "+" because you could always go big and get more. Keep the Q's coming!
Agree with everything but adding the CUC right away. While inverts are hardy, why put them through bad conditions like the cycle? After you add the LS and LR you have a couple of options for speeding the cycle up.
1. ghost feed the tank
2. add a raw shrimp
If you are patient you could just let the LR and LS complete the cycle.
 
kaingers

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Agreed. And you are probably going to be spending a boat load on the LR anyways. Hold out on the crew for a couple weeks, and save up some $$
 
rcranf

rcranf

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Originally Posted by JerryAtrick
http:///forum/post/2705520
You are going to have die off from the LR and LS no matter when you introduce it to a tank. IMO if you wait till the cycle is over and add the LS you run the risk of causing a secondary cycle.
ok thanks
 
rcranf

rcranf

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Originally Posted by kaingers
http:///forum/post/2705521
Add them at the same time. Be sure that your LR is on the bottom glass and not on top of the LS. You can add the crew immediately. Only fish will produce detrius, and if you have a good crew you won't have to worry about that. I am guessing you are going for a reef? IMO go with 30+ astrea snails, 5+ turbo snails, 20+ nassarius snails, 25+ crabs, 3+ emerald crabs. "+" because you could always go big and get more. Keep the Q's coming!
right now im going for FOWLR but may add corals somewhere down the line
 
rcranf

rcranf

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Originally Posted by kaingers
http:///forum/post/2705544
Agreed. And you are probably going to be spending a boat load on the LR anyways. Hold out on the crew for a couple weeks, and save up some $$

I already purchased the LR here is what I have so far,
Perfecto 125g Corner flow
perfecto refugiums 30L w/Partitions
Pentair quiet one return pump 780gph
cv octo in sump skimmer up to 250g
AQs - Instant Ocean 150g sea salt
Marineland- Maxi Jet 1200 powerheads X2
Algae Free- Maxi Jet mod kits x2
Carib sea Bahama oolite live sand 80lbs
tonga live rock 90lbs
carib sea base reef rock 50lbs
coralife 36" T5 Light fixture 4 x 39w x2
 
rcranf

rcranf

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Well I just set up my tank. Here are some shots even though you cannot see due to the sand. The only thing I dont have is my T-5 Lighting, and my skimmer. These should between today and monday. I had to upgrade my skimmer, and the lighting I wanted a dual switch it only came with 1 switch for both sets. Stll have to get all the cords put up nice and neat



 
iowafish

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Congrats on the new tank build! But... Aren't you just a hair bit concerned that the water level on your sump might be a tad high (like, a LOT high)? Have you tested to ensure it won't overflow if/when the power goes out?
KH
 
rcranf

rcranf

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Originally Posted by IOWAFISH
http:///forum/post/2706305
Congrats on the new tank build! But... Aren't you just a hair bit concerned that the water level on your sump might be a tad high (like, a LOT high)? Have you tested to ensure it won't overflow if/when the power goes out?
KH
Thanks
yes I have turned everything off and no problems.
 
fishygurl

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you can look at my thread too. Right now its somewhere near the top/middle of the reef section. I also have a 125 gallon.
*edit* heres the link.. https://www.saltwaterfish.com/vb/showthread.php?t=316815
If you plan on going reef buy the fish that are reef safe, so you dont have to deal with trying to catch the ones that arnt reef safe later.
The clean up crew i started with is:
20 astrea snails
15 Tongan nassarius snails
5 nerite snails
5 margaritta snails
10 cerith snails
3 tongan fighting conches.
So far they have had a lot to eat (i just added them, my tank has been up for 1 1/2 -2 months now.
I will wait quite some time, maybe a month or 2 and see how they are cleaning everything up, if it seems i am getting more algae and they cant keep up i will buy more, but why waste the money and buy a HUGE clean up crew and then watch them die when the food runs out?
Also i would suggest not to get hermit crabs. I had them in my 72 and they killed a lot of my snails even though i had hundreds of empty snails laying around for them...
Anyways i hope i helped.
 
rcranf

rcranf

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here are some pics of the tank so far its been up 3 days now, im still waiting on my T-5 lights to come in. The pics are not the best but wanted to see what people thought of the setup



 
rcranf

rcranf

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Originally Posted by JerryAtrick
http:///forum/post/2717058
Looks great... Looks like you will have a fair amount of feather dusters

on exactly waht picture do you see a featherduster that way I know what they look like, I looked on line and all they show is the feathers of it I have yet to see what the tube looks like where the feathers are secure until they fill like pushing them out.
any thoughts will help
 
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