Another question for the Vets or Vet Techs

lkgrenegade22

lkgrenegade22

Member
Originally Posted by Girlina4x4
http:///forum/post/2852131
"Honey, where did my ENTIRE biggie fry go?"
Needless to say, I find out the next day

My oldest dog will disown me for the rest of the evening if I don't give him something off my plate. Luckily he has a cast iron stomach.
 
mboswell1982

mboswell1982

Active Member
my dads jack russel eats nothing but human food, and i dont mean fast food LOL whenever my dad cooks, he fixes enough for both him and his dog buddy, buddy gets his own plate, with veggies, meat, be it hamburger, steak, chicken, turkey, deer meat, whatever LOL and whatever else he cooks that night LOL he loves steak with brocoli, however u spell it, and mashed potatoes with gravy, thats his alltime favorite meal, and he eats the veggies first n the steak last LOL
 
D

dragonzim

Active Member
Brought him to the vet this morning. She is pretty sure that its not a food allergy. She told me that really only about 15% of allergy problems in dogs are related to their food. She gave him an injection of prednisone along with a few days worth of predisone

[hr]
to give him at home. She's convinced that this will solve his problems and if not, then she'll think about testing him for food allergies.
Thanks for all the advice folks!
 
mimzy

mimzy

Active Member
Originally Posted by DragonZim
http:///forum/post/2852544
Brought him to the vet this morning. She is pretty sure that its not a food allergy. She told me that really only about 15% of allergy problems in dogs are related to their food. She gave him an injection of prednisone along with a few days worth of predisone

[hr]
to give him at home. She's convinced that this will solve his problems and if not, then she'll think about testing him for food allergies.
Thanks for all the advice folks!

yay!!! glad he's on his way to some relief. poor bubelah. being itchy is just no fun at all.
 
mboswell1982

mboswell1982

Active Member
Originally Posted by DragonZim
http:///forum/post/2852544
Brought him to the vet this morning. She is pretty sure that its not a food allergy. She told me that really only about 15% of allergy problems in dogs are related to their food. She gave him an injection of prednisone along with a few days worth of predisone

[hr]
to give him at home. She's convinced that this will solve his problems and if not, then she'll think about testing him for food allergies.
Thanks for all the advice folks!
find a new vet, asap, its kinda like givin a person prozac even though u dont know whats wrong with em, but u give em the prozac cause it will mask the signs of whats wrong with em.
u need to have the allergy tests done, and they will test for more than just food allergies. but all ur vet really is in the business for it seems like is covering up the allergies. it could be food allergies, it could be environmental allergies, but, your vet shoulda tested for that before administering the predisone. of the vetts that i know, they will not administer predisone without testing first, and they most definitely will not give a few days worth to the animal owner unless they have dont said tests.
just my .02 worth
 
petjunkie

petjunkie

Active Member
How long has it been going on? If could just be a random occurence from something weird he came in contact with or ate but if it keeps up you should do the allergy testing, it's pricey and so are the shots but at least you will know what the problem is. If you start switching everything up at once you will never know what fixed it if he gets better. I agree it's probably not a food allergy if he's been on the same food for that long, any else new? New detergent, cleaning chemical, something new outside? See if the pred helps, maybe it'll never come back.
 
mboswell1982

mboswell1982

Active Member
it could still be a food allergy, u might want to check an make sure they didnt change up the formula on the food, dog food companies are notorious for doin that an not notifying the consumers
 
D

dragonzim

Active Member
Originally Posted by petjunkie
http:///forum/post/2852944
How long has it been going on? If could just be a random occurence from something weird he came in contact with or ate but if it keeps up you should do the allergy testing, it's pricey and so are the shots but at least you will know what the problem is. If you start switching everything up at once you will never know what fixed it if he gets better. I agree it's probably not a food allergy if he's been on the same food for that long, any else new? New detergent, cleaning chemical, something new outside? See if the pred helps, maybe it'll never come back.
I have a feeling that its most likely from the fallen leaves outside. He likes to play around and roll in them.
Originally Posted by mboswell1982
http:///forum/post/2852965
it could still be a food allergy, u might want to check an make sure they didnt change up the formula on the food, dog food companies are notorious for doin that an not notifying the consumers
We'll be keeping a watch on everything
 
jemshores

jemshores

Member

Originally Posted by DragonZim
http:///forum/post/2851932
My dog has been displaying behavior associated with some type of allergies. He is licking and chewing at his paws and scratching his whole body and especially his face. He's gotten to the point where he's drawn blood on his snout, under his eyes and on his ears more than once. I am trying to avoid a crazy vet bill for as long as I can. I have given him up to 50mg of Benadryl at a time so far. I know I can give more, but I havent yet. He weighs about 60 lbs and from what I've read I can safely give him 1-2 mg of Benadryl per pound of body weight. My question is, have any of you seen or given Allegra 180 to a dog? I saw on the manufacturers website that it was tested on dogs and found to be safe, but they really dont say whether it has any effect on allergies or itchiness.
Thanks for any advice!
After reading the posts, flea allergies were not mentioned. I have 2 Pugs that are notorious for skin ailments...as it turned out, food was one issue (use Royal Canine now) and 1 flea can couse lots of havoc on a dog. My vet told me that the topical stuff is not as strong anymore due to it being made and packaged overseas. So you can use Comfortis or Sentinel, both oral, with Sentinel for fleas and heartworm. If your dog will be used for breeding or is nursing, seeks Vets advice first. But I administered 1 Comfortis and within 1 hour all the itching/scratching (which was bad) stopped. Followed up with the Predinsone and a antitbiotic too, but will never us the topical again. Cost wise, about the same, with Sentinel being the better deal for both heartworm and fleas-must have it in Florida!!!My vet is sooo cool too! A recent UF/Gator grad and calls every couple days to see how meds are doing! Cant' beat that!
 
T

tizzo

Guest
These crazy dogs get athletes foot, LOL!
My 2 cents... My little jack-rat used to dig at his paws round the clock Til we moved to Florida. I haven't seen it since. Maybe you just need to move.
 
al mc

al mc

Active Member
Glad Riley is feeling better. A couple comments on a few of the posts.
Based on the distribution of the lesions..probably is contact allergen (leaves you mentioned are as good a guess as any)
Nothing wrong with use of corticosteroids (prednisolone/prednisone) without allergy testing with an acute flair up. Testing is expensive so I do not 'push' testing on a pet with a first time or once a year flair up. Also, test results can take up to 14 days to get back...you need to provide the animal comfort..use 'pred', if needed. ***I would not use it long term ( greater than 3 weeks) or more than 2-3x per year...can affect kidneys, liver and adrenal glands*****
Flea allergies and use of Sentinel. If your pet is allergic to fleas it is from a flea bite (the flea saliva). The flea has to bite the pet to be exposed to the Sentinel....So, you get the allergic reaction anyway. Long term Sentinel will reduce the number of fleas as it prevents the flea larva from developing by damaging the flea egg. Better..Frontline or Advantage IMHO. They both should kill the flea before they bite.
 
D

dragonzim

Active Member
Originally Posted by Al Mc
http:///forum/post/2858351
Glad Riley is feeling better. A couple comments on a few of the posts.
Based on the distribution of the lesions..probably is contact allergen (leaves you mentioned are as good a guess as any)
Nothing wrong with use of corticosteroids (prednisolone/prednisone) without allergy testing with an acute flair up. Testing is expensive so I do not 'push' testing on a pet with a first time or once a year flair up. Also, test results can take up to 14 days to get back...you need to provide the animal comfort..use 'pred', if needed. ***I would not use it long term ( greater than 3 weeks) or more than 2-3x per year...can affect kidneys, liver and adrenal glands*****
Flea allergies and use of Sentinel. If your pet is allergic to fleas it is from a flea bite (the flea saliva). The flea has to bite the pet to be exposed to the Sentinel....So, you get the allergic reaction anyway. Long term Sentinel will reduce the number of fleas as it prevents the flea larva from developing by damaging the flea egg. Better..Frontline or Advantage IMHO. They both should kill the flea before they bite.
Thanks Al. The Vet gave me enough Presnisone for about 2 weeks but she said that I should wean him off of it after 4-5 days if the itching has subsided.
 
tang master

tang master

Member
Well, there is something called, "Canine Inhalant Atopy", which is a basic allergy from pollen and other airborne allergines that typically affect dogs and it make up 90% of all allergic reactions for dogs. Humans release histamines usually from their resperatory systems when the are allergic to something, while dogs release their histamines from their skin and there for, relates to the scratching until they bleed. hope this helps.
 
al mc

al mc

Active Member
Originally Posted by Tang Master
http:///forum/post/2858583
Well, there is something called, "Canine Inhalant Atopy", which is a basic allergy from pollen and other airborne allergines that typically affect dogs and it make up 90% of all allergic reactions for dogs. Humans release histamines usually from their resperatory systems when the are allergic to something, while dogs release their histamines from their skin and there for, relates to the scratching until they bleed. hope this helps.
it has been a long held theory that the three basic allergies in dogs and cats consist of ingested allergens (foods), contact allergens (walk through/lie in), and inhaled allergens (airborne). Most recently it has been suggested that most of the inhaled allergens actually enter the body through skin contact?!? Personally, I am not sure what to believe other than dogs and cats get itchy skin from food, airborne and contact allergens.
 
al mc

al mc

Active Member
Originally Posted by DragonZim
http:///forum/post/2858407
Thanks Al. The Vet gave me enough Presnisone for about 2 weeks but she said that I should wean him off of it after 4-5 days if the itching has subsided.
She probably also mentioned that the major side effect is an increase in thirst and appetite. This is usually worse on the higher (2x daily) dosing and subsides when you get down once daily or every other day dosing.
I can't prescribe for him since I have never seen him, but in most situations cortisone tablets are given 2x daily for a couple (3-4) days, then 1x daily for a couple days, then every other day for about 10 days. Just the way I do it. We all have our own opinions/quirks
 
D

dragonzim

Active Member
Originally Posted by Al Mc
http:///forum/post/2858714
She probably also mentioned that the major side effect is an increase in thirst and appetite. This is usually worse on the higher (2x daily) dosing and subsides when you get down once daily or every other day dosing.
I can't prescribe for him since I have never seen him, but in most situations cortisone tablets are given 2x daily for a couple (3-4) days, then 1x daily for a couple days, then every other day for about 10 days. Just the way I do it. We all have our own opinions/quirks

I havent really seen much of an increase in his appetite but definitely in his thirst. He drinks and pees like its going out of style. We are bringing him down to 1 pill a day for the steroids today and are going to see how he does.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top