anyone have any experience with a sea apple?

angelfan28

Member
the pet store i went to said he could kill everything in the tank but he had been doing it for 20 years and never saw it happen.
the guy i usually go to says avoid it like the plague. what gives?
 

michaeltx

Moderator
If they get stressed or die in a closed system like or tanks they release a toxic chemical that will kill it and the rest of the tank. some people have good luck with them others like myself wont even think about it because there are to many variables that could lead to catastrophic consequences.
mike
 

phatford

Member
if you do get one make sure nothing picks on it. When they die it goes quick and kills everything. My dad learned the hard way that puffers and apples do not mix. And dead apples and fish don't mix.
 

merredeth

Active Member
I've had one for about nine months now and he is a great addition to the tank. However, housing a sea apple does have some risks.
Here are some pointers though:
1. Make sure you put one in a community tank and not an aggressive tank. You don't want anyone picking on the sea apple.
2. You will need to add phytoplankton to your tank every couple of days as they will die if not eating at least 50 - 60% of the time.
3. Water parameters must be pristine or they will expel their insides and poison your tank in a matter of minutes, killing all your fish.
4. Sea Apples move around a tank. If you have a lot of corals in this tank, be prepared to move them every now and then or they will be sat on. You do run the risk of killing certain soft corals if the sea apple decides to stick the to particular rock.
5. Cover powerheads and heaters. You don't want them stuck to a powerhead. As for heaters, the skin can burn which will create stress, thus you run the danger of your tankmates dying due to the expelling of the insides.
6. While claims of lighting seem to be immaterial according to websites, I have found they are light senstive. Mine seems to close up the first few minutes actinics are on, a few minutes when the whites are on and the same when you turn each off. Moonlights coming on or off you will see the tubes retract as well.
7. Don't put rare fish or highly expensive fish into the tank unless you want to risk losing a large investment. I may be foolish for doing this, but I have several fish that cost a pile of money in my Sea Apple tank. I live dangerously though, and love to spend money replacing fish. hahahaha. Seriously though, if you worry about a particular fish, you should probably have a seond tank set up for the apple, or better yet, get the apple a dedicated tank.
8. Bioloads with sea apples are high. Water changes and a good protein skimmer are a must if you want to keep your tank healthy.
9. Sea Apples will move when they want to. Never move them by pulling them off the tank. You could see an apple stay attached to one area for days or weeks and you can see him bloat up to move.
10. Bloating can be one of two things. Either he is getting ready to move to a different area of the tank with different current, or he is stressed. If you see him move in a few minutes, you are okay. The bloat on their own for no apparent reason as well. You probably won't know until it is too late.
11. If you like worrying about your tank, this is the addition for you. Until you have had him a long time and been able to observe his habits, you will lose some sleep over this addition due to worry. After awhile though, you tend to understand their lifestyle and you eventually come to a point where you don't worry as much.
I love the apple and the color. However, keep in mind that I love to do the tank maintenance so for me, keeping the tank water in pristine conditions is something I enjoy. Not everyone enjoys all the additional maintenance and monitoring sea apples will require to maintain a healthy tank.
Hope this helps you out.
Denise M.

Those are my suggestions.
 

merredeth

Active Member
Originally Posted by lion_crazz
Wow, Denise, that was quite the explanation!! Good job, you really covered everything!
Thanks!
I love the sea apple and they are beautiful to watch, but believe me when I tell you they are a stress to even put in a tank initially.
I suffer from the affliction of multiple tank syndrom and want to get another sea apple for another tank that I have.
They are beautiful to watch and extremely relaxing to me when I sit and look at the one that I have. So, I'm thinking of getting another one for the bedroom tank.
Denise M.
 

solarscar

Member
Just thought i would add my experience with a sea apple....
I had one in with some fish and a cc starfish. I actually watched the star put an arm on the apple, then the starfish immediatly got off it no problems... ! minute later, the apple release HUGE amount of waste... Didn't poison the tank, nothing died.
 

nigerbang

Active Member
Originally Posted by Merredeth
I've had one for about nine months now and he is a great addition to the tank. However, housing a sea apple does have some risks.
Here are some pointers though:
1. Make sure you put one in a community tank and not an aggressive tank. You don't want anyone picking on the sea apple.
2. You will need to add phytoplankton to your tank every couple of days as they will die if not eating at least 50 - 60% of the time.
3. Water parameters must be pristine or they will expel their insides and poison your tank in a matter of minutes, killing all your fish.
4. Sea Apples move around a tank. If you have a lot of corals in this tank, be prepared to move them every now and then or they will be sat on. You do run the risk of killing certain soft corals if the sea apple decides to stick the to particular rock.
5. Cover powerheads and heaters. You don't want them stuck to a powerhead. As for heaters, the skin can burn which will create stress, thus you run the danger of your tankmates dying due to the expelling of the insides.
6. While claims of lighting seem to be immaterial according to websites, I have found they are light senstive. Mine seems to close up the first few minutes actinics are on, a few minutes when the whites are on and the same when you turn each off. Moonlights coming on or off you will see the tubes retract as well.
7. Don't put rare fish or highly expensive fish into the tank unless you want to risk losing a large investment. I may be foolish for doing this, but I have several fish that cost a pile of money in my Sea Apple tank. I live dangerously though, and love to spend money replacing fish. hahahaha. Seriously though, if you worry about a particular fish, you should probably have a seond tank set up for the apple, or better yet, get the apple a dedicated tank.
8. Bioloads with sea apples are high. Water changes and a good protein skimmer are a must if you want to keep your tank healthy.
9. Sea Apples will move when they want to. Never move them by pulling them off the tank. You could see an apple stay attached to one area for days or weeks and you can see him bloat up to move.
10. Bloating can be one of two things. Either he is getting ready to move to a different area of the tank with different current, or he is stressed. If you see him move in a few minutes, you are okay. The bloat on their own for no apparent reason as well. You probably won't know until it is too late.
11. If you like worrying about your tank, this is the addition for you. Until you have had him a long time and been able to observe his habits, you will lose some sleep over this addition due to worry. After awhile though, you tend to understand their lifestyle and you eventually come to a point where you don't worry as much.
I love the apple and the color. However, keep in mind that I love to do the tank maintenance so for me, keeping the tank water in pristine conditions is something I enjoy. Not everyone enjoys all the additional maintenance and monitoring sea apples will require to maintain a healthy tank.
Hope this helps you out.
Denise M.

Those are my suggestions.
Wow...Nail on the head, I tell you...I had an Apple before...sadly something bad happened when I was on vacation about 3 years ago and I came home to a dead tank..They are great, look amazing, and very intresting to watch them feed, but they have a large potential for a bad outcome if housed in a closed system that is even slighly negleted..I want to aquire another one, but I dont think I have everything up to par for another quite yet..
 

chilwil84

Active Member
keep the water pristine, no fish that pick on featherdusters, feed it a few times a week and you should be fine denise has it perfectly, the coral moving thing will happen every once in a while i got one for my reef when i 1st started in saltwater (yes i started with a reef) and had it for over a year i brought it back to my lfs after it sat on my plate coral while i was at work and they did some good damage to each other they both survived but the sea apple went back shortly after
 
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