Anyone here cook "natural foods" for their dog?
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flower
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My mother just boils the turkey or the chicken and pulls it off the bones when it's cooled. She puts about 5 pounds into gallon baggies to last a couple of days. She adds the meat with the dry food (iams), not mixed, just next to each other like she was feeding a person. Sometimes she gives them cut up hot dogs so they three tastes that they like in the dish.
darthtang aw
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Natural food for a dog is not cooked. This is an oxymoron. The dog has only been domesticated for about 100 years. This is not enough time for their digestive system to evolve to truly handle cooked food. Thus why many premium kibble foods low temp cook the kibble. So as not to kill certain enzymes, prebiotics, and probiotics. (Contrary to popular belief, iams is not a premium food).
Depending on why you are looking into this there are several options and ways to approach a dog's diet. What are your goals and what is the problem. Also what is your budget?
Darth (think i am gonna get irritated) Tang
Depending on why you are looking into this there are several options and ways to approach a dog's diet. What are your goals and what is the problem. Also what is your budget?
Darth (think i am gonna get irritated) Tang
flower
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/388377/anyone-here-cook-natural-foods-for-their-dog#post_3424936
Natural food for a dog is not cooked. This is an oxymoron. The dog has only been domesticated for about 100 years. This is not enough time for their digestive system to evolve to truly handle cooked food. Thus why many premium kibble foods low temp cook the kibble. So as not to kill certain enzymes, prebiotics, and probiotics. (Contrary to popular belief, iams is not a premium food).
Depending on why you are looking into this there are several options and ways to approach a dog's diet. What are your goals and what is the problem. Also what is your budget?
Darth (think i am gonna get irritated) Tang
My dog will not eat raw meat, unless maybe it's human intruders, and you should see the dog foods he won't touch including Eukanuba at $50.00 a bag. He will eat the iam's for now, and after about a month he tires of it and won't eat it anymore, and then we will go on the hunt for another brand. He does really like Slim Jims....and his favorite food is tuna in a can or broiled salmon. He will eat all canned cat foods.
I think my 96 pound German Shepherd is really a big kitty in disguise. On the plus side, I don't have to worry about a stranger trying to distract him, or poison him with a piece of raw steak.
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/388377/anyone-here-cook-natural-foods-for-their-dog#post_3424936
Natural food for a dog is not cooked. This is an oxymoron. The dog has only been domesticated for about 100 years. This is not enough time for their digestive system to evolve to truly handle cooked food. Thus why many premium kibble foods low temp cook the kibble. So as not to kill certain enzymes, prebiotics, and probiotics. (Contrary to popular belief, iams is not a premium food).
Depending on why you are looking into this there are several options and ways to approach a dog's diet. What are your goals and what is the problem. Also what is your budget?
Darth (think i am gonna get irritated) Tang
My dog will not eat raw meat, unless maybe it's human intruders, and you should see the dog foods he won't touch including Eukanuba at $50.00 a bag. He will eat the iam's for now, and after about a month he tires of it and won't eat it anymore, and then we will go on the hunt for another brand. He does really like Slim Jims....and his favorite food is tuna in a can or broiled salmon. He will eat all canned cat foods.
I think my 96 pound German Shepherd is really a big kitty in disguise. On the plus side, I don't have to worry about a stranger trying to distract him, or poison him with a piece of raw steak.
flower
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/388377/anyone-here-cook-natural-foods-for-their-dog#post_3424986
Natural food for my dogs is anything that hits the floor.
LOL...Tamerah too, and anything left on a plate sitting on the coffee table, any left over food in the puppies dishes, and whatever Atticus leaves behind...besides what my Mother shares from her plate.
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/388377/anyone-here-cook-natural-foods-for-their-dog#post_3424986
Natural food for my dogs is anything that hits the floor.
LOL...Tamerah too, and anything left on a plate sitting on the coffee table, any left over food in the puppies dishes, and whatever Atticus leaves behind...besides what my Mother shares from her plate.
cranberry
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/388377/anyone-here-cook-natural-foods-for-their-dog#post_3424936
Natural food for a dog is not cooked.
Darth (think i am gonna get irritated) Tang
Dood, get over it. Argue that in your own thread. I wish I were in your shoes, if those were the things I had to worry about. And learn what quotations mean.
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Originally Posted by bender77 http:///t/388377/anyone-here-cook-natural-foods-for-their-dog#post_3424905
Does your dog have any health problems that need to be taken into consideration
Yes, congestive heart failure and kidney failure.
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Originally Posted by Gemmy http:///t/388377/anyone-here-cook-natural-foods-for-their-dog#post_3424907
Also, the breed, activity level and if the pet is overweight also need to be considered.
Beagle and ummmm.... snails pass her up. She's 16 and has arthritis in her hips, knees and back. She's been doing ok with it on her meds, but all these vet trips are taking it's toll on her legs. She's barely walking.... I hope it is just temporary. Not over weight per se, she's 34 pounds. She's always been about that, but now it's fat instead of muscle. We all know how that goes.
Low salt, but most every recipe can be adapted. Super yummy as I want these days to be "filled with lemony goodness"
Fat is not an issue.
These have to be complete diets. I'm not giving her commercial products any longer. If it's not totally complete, that's ok, it won't change the outcome.
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/388377/anyone-here-cook-natural-foods-for-their-dog#post_3424936
Natural food for a dog is not cooked.
Darth (think i am gonna get irritated) Tang
Dood, get over it. Argue that in your own thread. I wish I were in your shoes, if those were the things I had to worry about. And learn what quotations mean.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bender77 http:///t/388377/anyone-here-cook-natural-foods-for-their-dog#post_3424905
Does your dog have any health problems that need to be taken into consideration
Yes, congestive heart failure and kidney failure.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemmy http:///t/388377/anyone-here-cook-natural-foods-for-their-dog#post_3424907
Also, the breed, activity level and if the pet is overweight also need to be considered.
Beagle and ummmm.... snails pass her up. She's 16 and has arthritis in her hips, knees and back. She's been doing ok with it on her meds, but all these vet trips are taking it's toll on her legs. She's barely walking.... I hope it is just temporary. Not over weight per se, she's 34 pounds. She's always been about that, but now it's fat instead of muscle. We all know how that goes.
Low salt, but most every recipe can be adapted. Super yummy as I want these days to be "filled with lemony goodness"
Fat is not an issue.These have to be complete diets. I'm not giving her commercial products any longer. If it's not totally complete, that's ok, it won't change the outcome.
flower
Well-Known Member
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Originally Posted by Cranberry http:///t/388377/anyone-here-cook-natural-foods-for-their-dog#post_3425020
If we can reverse this, I could get 6 good months. I'll take 16 and 1/2 years! I'll know a little more Friday.
There are low salt commercial products, but geez, taste is important in the golden years. She actually wouldn't eat it at this point.
LOL...I understand completely...we love are our furbabies too. I had an 18 year old cat, and it took him 10 minutes to lay down because of arthritis, we made him a bed and put a heating pad in there for him.
Originally Posted by Cranberry http:///t/388377/anyone-here-cook-natural-foods-for-their-dog#post_3425020
If we can reverse this, I could get 6 good months. I'll take 16 and 1/2 years! I'll know a little more Friday.
There are low salt commercial products, but geez, taste is important in the golden years. She actually wouldn't eat it at this point.
LOL...I understand completely...we love are our furbabies too. I had an 18 year old cat, and it took him 10 minutes to lay down because of arthritis, we made him a bed and put a heating pad in there for him.
reefraff
Active Member
There are some high protein low carb diet dog foods out there that might do what you need. I know someone who has 3 elderly or older Great Danes and she raves about the raw diet. I think she feeds each dog one raw chicken back a day. Don't know if that would give your dog everything it needs or not.
I am about 2 weeks into my new Beagle. He has the same discerning tastes the 2 13" Beagles I had did. If it fits in their mouth.........
I am about 2 weeks into my new Beagle. He has the same discerning tastes the 2 13" Beagles I had did. If it fits in their mouth.........
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smartorl
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Sorry about your pup Cranberry. Take a little peace in knowing that I was in the same situation with my Boston two years ago and he pulled back from death's door and gave us another wonderful year and a half.
I don't have any advice on diet, but maybe this will give you a starting point: http://www.2ndchance.info/homemadediets.htm
I don't have any advice on diet, but maybe this will give you a starting point: http://www.2ndchance.info/homemadediets.htm
bender77
Member
OK, for for the set without feeding amounts your dog should have around 600 calories for it's size. I know they aren't complete diets, but for a short time it shouldn't be a problems, but discuss them with your vet. I hope I didn't duplicate any, but it should give you a good starting point. Sorry some of them are sideways. If you click on them, they will enlarge. I just figured pictures are better than trying to type them all
And this one out of my internal medicine book.
And this one out of my internal medicine book.
aquaknight
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My parents prepare their dogs food. A Lab, 6, and a Chessie, 2. Lab is about 90lbs, Chessie is around 110, both just slightly overweight. They're going for coat and joint care, as they're both physically larger then they should be and are extremely active dogs with lots of time swimming, so skin/coat care is important too. Basically the same bulk of the diets already mentioned, grounded beef or chicken breast, rice, veggies, boiled eggs, sardines and other fish. Cooking foods is more of a convenience thing. Don't always have the time at dinner for raw. That said, they feed as much raw as they can, necks, chicken feet, plus others, seen them gnawing on a big bone often. They supplement, not sure what...