Anyone use Microsoft Vista (sp)

reefkprz

Active Member
I'm not overly impressed with it. occasionally while uploading files or something like that it just does a random memory purge and crashes. restarting the computer. I dont know why. I'm not a computer whiz by any stretch of the imagination, but I never had this problem with XP and nothing about the way I use the computer has changed. of course it could be the lenevo system i purchased and not vista.
 

michaeltx

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if your talking about vista you wont get it vista is integrated into internet and during setup will contact microsoft to veryify copy if its pirated the copy is locked up.unlike XP and previous versions you can only run each individual copy on one computer any attempt to run on more than one is considered piracy unless you have bought a muti license from microsoft. now its intergrated into the vista program certain security measures to detect piracy.
To me I beleive thats the only reason for the vista version IMO
Mike
 

bellanavis

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Really, that sucks. I use my XP on my work computer, home desk top, and my lap top, and multiple family members computers. I guess I will just wipe my friends hard drive, and give him XP.
 

michaeltx

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honestly they are better off with XP if I had a choice I would format my computer and put XP on it instead of Vista
 

royal gang

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I have Vista, it will block some of your actions but I out-smarted it and gave all access to myself... one thing that bothered me is that it said OWNER: microsoft23154 or something like that..... pffft it's my computer, get with the program, billy.
 

ice4ice

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When I bought my new computer, I did some research on Vista and chose Vista Ultimate. Yes it is a hog, BUT you need to have at least 2 gigs of memory and and at least 2 gigs hard drive. So far I have had no problems whatsoever. I was able to install 3 games with no problems and they are playable. Don't get Vista Home version or Business/Professional version. The home version is the 32-bit while Ultimate is 64-bit. Go Ultimate Vista and get AT LEAST 2 gigs or more in your memory and your hard drive.
One other thing, don't bother with the downloaded version of Vista because that's where most of your problems lies. Buy a computer with Vista installed or buy the Vista Ultimate software.
 

05xrunner

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Originally Posted by Ice4Ice
When I bought my new computer, I did some research on Vista and chose Vista Ultimate. Yes it is a hog, BUT you need to have at least 2 gigs of memory and and at least 2 gigs hard drive. So far I have had no problems whatsoever. I was able to install 3 games with no problems and they are playable. Don't get Vista Home version or Business/Professional version. The home version is the 32-bit while Ultimate is 64-bit. Go Ultimate Vista and get AT LEAST 2 gigs or more in your memory and your hard drive.
One other thing, don't bother with the downloaded version of Vista because that's where most of your problems lies. Buy a computer with Vista installed or buy the Vista Ultimate software.
Your wrong on MANY things there. Vista ONLY needs 512mb to install. I had Ultimate 32bit with 1gig and it ran very smooth like XP 2gig ram is NOT needed for smooth experiance. Vista Ultimate comes in 32bit and 64bit. You got Lucky with the games you chose. There are STILL many games and applications that are still buggy with Vista and still have not been fixed as well as drivers for it to.
 

shogun323

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I have had a few users at work asking me when we are going to be upgrading. With the shift Microsoft has taken with Vista, we may very well be running XP until it goes to End of Life.
I think Microsoft has made a big mistake here with Vista. From an IT perspective, what do you gain with Vista?
Significant loss in performance on systems
New fancy look.....
More new worthless features to lockdown
Application incompatibilites
On another note: I am worried to see what they have done in the next server release.
 

poppins

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what the majority of people dont know is that the reason people are having problems with running particular programs is because the administrator account properties are disabled. Even though it says you have admin rights, you really dont. Also to change these options are relatively simple but for home or home premium users requires a dos command prompt to unlock the admin properties. The only way I know this is because im a tech for a software company and have spent countless hours speaking with microsft, and by the way VISTA IS GARBAGE
 

05xrunner

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Originally Posted by poppins
what the majority of people dont know is that the reason people are having problems with running particular programs is because the administrator account properties are disabled. Even though it says you have admin rights, you really dont. Also to change these options are relatively simple but for home or home premium users requires a dos command prompt to unlock the admin properties. The only way I know this is because im a tech for a software company and have spent countless hours speaking with microsft, and by the way VISTA IS GARBAGE
Microsoft is retarded. Thats a cop out answer they gave you.
Just like when i tried to use Nero 7..the System went to mem DUMP..yep Admin rights will solve that. When i played Quake 4. Game started..played then screen went black and game was still playing with sound. Once again Issue that they still havnt made good drivers for Vista yet. Software on my keyboard made Vista go to Mem dump everytime it was rebooted. I tried to install Alcohol 120 burning software. System went totally DOWN. I had to boot with my Vista DVD to do a system restore from right before I installed that. Like I said I wont give it another try till the SP1 is released
 

ice4ice

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Originally Posted by 05xrunner
You got Lucky with the games you chose. There are STILL many games and applications that are still buggy with Vista and still have not been fixed as well as drivers for it to.
Not really. I had these games for quite some time now (3 years or so). I installed Delta Force Black Hawk Down and Team Sabre, Pacific Fighter, and DeerHunter 2005. These games are fairly old mind you. Next I'm getting Battlefield 2142 and IL-2 Sturmovik 1946. These games will accept Direct X version 9 or better.
Vista Ultimate 64-bit need alot of memory and hard drive space to run smoothly. Get the most memory and hard drive space you can get/afford. I still say get at least 1.8 gig or more. It's well worth it. I'm also running on a Dual Core processor as well.
 

nigerbang

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Originally Posted by Ice4Ice
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One other thing, don't bother with the downloaded version of Vista because that's where most of your problems lies. Buy a computer with Vista installed or buy the Vista Ultimate software.
I downloaded Vista Ultimate....Have had no problems with things running badly..Just dont like Vista...Went back to XP
 

scsinet

Active Member
Originally Posted by 05xrunner
I dont know wher eyou get that Info at. I had vista since Last Nov. since I have a MSDN license.
I have a AMD 64 3000, 1gig ram and a 6800GT and vista ran just as fast as XP with Aero. I dont like vista though. Half the applications dont work I try to run. Games are always crashing. it does suck up alot of hardware and mem. I went back to XP a few months ago. I wont give Vista a try till they get a sp1 out for it. Ohh and where did you find a 8800 series card with 512mem, they have 320, 640, 768..The new 8800GT due out at the end of this month will have 512 but no other 8800 does. maybe you got an 8600 variation.
Which info are you referring to? Your post sounds almost accusatory, why I don't know???

When I say it won't run smoothly on less than 2GB of RAM, that's my experience. Microsoft's recommendation is a lot less, though through the years I've found that their recommendation is always a bit weak.
Maybe it's a lack of memory that was causing your crashes. I found that when using 1GB of ram, simply booting Vista used almost all of it. By the time you really started using the OS you were banging on the page file so hard your computer just wouldn't perform well.
I was wrong about the video card, it's an 8600, not an 8800. I wasn't on my work PC when I wrote that so I didn't remember exactly.
 

scsinet

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Originally Posted by shogun323
I have had a few users at work asking me when we are going to be upgrading. With the shift Microsoft has taken with Vista, we may very well be running XP until it goes to End of Life.
I think Microsoft has made a big mistake here with Vista. From an IT perspective, what do you gain with Vista?
Significant loss in performance on systems
New fancy look.....
More new worthless features to lockdown
Application incompatibilites
On another note: I am worried to see what they have done in the next server release.

True enough, but they have made a few improvements to the granularity of control via group policy. I especially like the features that allow you to let non-admins install certain ActiveX controls. That's why I'm pushing for it, because I'm tired of my help desk getting clogged up with calls for users who need to install ActiveX this and ActiveX that.
That said, I'm certainly not going to to deploy it on existing hardware, but rather phase it in with new equipment purchases, as you are right, it's a lot of hardware cost. No way would I throw out systems that run fine on XP just get Vista out there.
 

scsinet

Active Member
Originally Posted by 05xrunner
Its even worse how far behind EVERYTHING is for the 64bit version of it. No one still makes many drivers or software even for that.
I agree completely. Most major vendors have now released 64-bit versions of their drivers, but I am sorely disappointed in the lack of software support on the part of application vendors.
Given that you need 64 bit to natively support more than 4GB (technically about 3.5GB) of RAM (among other things), the death of x86 architecture is coming fast. When I tossed around which version to install on my PC, I ended up going with 32-bit, even though I couldn't see all 4GB of RAM I had because I simply didn't want to deal with the fact that about the only app I had that actually supported 64 bit was my OS and related programs... and who needs Solitare or Calculator in 64 bit?
 

reefkprz

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Originally Posted by SCSInet
and who needs Solitare or Calculator in 64 bit?
I like 64bit minesweeper though.......
 
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