Aquaknight

scotts

Active Member
Some questions for you, sir.
I have a 2009 car. I will not tell you what type because I do not want to make you feel ill
Let's just say my wife loves it. We have had it about 3 months now. What is the best things to use when washing the car? Also what is the best type of wax to use on it? Unfortunately we have developed the dreaded spider web look. I am assuming that is just in the clear coat and should go away with a coat of a good wax. Also some things have rubbed up against the car, I have been able to get most of it out, but don't really want to go to the full extent of buffing it out, do you have any helpful hints? One mark is from the rubber part of a car bumper, the other is from some plastic.
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Your really cool uncle.
Scott
 

aquaknight

Active Member
First, thoroughly rinse the entire car. Use a genuine sheepskin wash mitt, with a "2-bucket" system. One bucket is a soap/water, the other is pure water to rinse the mitt off between panels on the car. Work from top down. Use a wash sponge on the lower parts of the car first to remove dirt. Rinse often. Dry the car with a good, geniune chamois (not a SHAM-WOW
).
Next go over the entire car with a clay bar kit. I like Meguiar's "Smooth Surface" kit. This will remove all of the containments. Bascially you'll use a spray bottle, at a section at a time, use the spray, and then rub the 'clay bar' over the paint. You'll need to be continuity folding the bar to get the containments into the center of the bar (just fold in half and smush the bar).
Here's the thing/catch. Wax's are really just protectant's for the paint, a thick layer (relatively) of top coat that helps against UV and impact from small particles. Wax's that advertise to help with scratches, etc., have different compounds, etc that really don't help much. Wax's tend to wear away quickly. If the intent is to keep the car's finish top shelf for years to come, here is what I'd do, make the switch to a polish only system. Zaino is as highly respected in the industry as you can get. The downside is, initially setup is going to be a bit tedious, but the results will speak for themselves, and the upside is that the 'polish' will only need to be apply twice, maybe three times a year.
At first, I would try Zaino Z-5 Pro. It's a non-abrasive polish that removes very light scratches (what spider webs are). Since the car's paint is still new, this is as far as I'd go. DO NOT use any abrasives/rubbing compounds yet. The car's paint has not finished curring yet. It takes over 6 months. With an applicator pad, go over the car. You might have to repeat if necessary.
After the Z-5, follow with an application of Z-2 Pro w/ZFX for the intial application. Z-2 Pro is the bread and butter polish that replaces a traditional wax. Since your are layering Z-2 over Z-5, and this is the first time, you will need to use ZFX. ZFX is an accelrator you use a couple drops, in the provided mixing bottle with Z-2. With an applicator pad, go over the car. Less is more. You don't have to use a lot of product or use heavy force. Let dry and wipe off with a clean towel.
Finally, here is the fruit of your labor. From then on, after you wash the car, all you'll have to do is apply Z-6, which is a spray detailer. No more monthly/bi-weekly applications of a wax. Just mist Z-6 on, and wipe off. Z-2 will only needed applied 2 or 3 times a year.
Unfortunately Zaino products are only available online at zainostore.com
If anythingin the post needs touched on, lemme know. I realize it was kinda of abbreveated.
 

geridoc

Well-Known Member
I second the nomination of Zaino's products. I have used them for many years, and they give a long lasting deep polish that protects the finish and makes it look great. There are other sources for Zaino's products on line. One nice thing about it is that you can call Zaino in New Jersey and speak with one of the Zaino brothers directly if you have a question about your finish.
 

miaheatlvr

Active Member
Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2961709
First, thoroughly rinse the entire car. Use a genuine sheepskin wash mitt, with a "2-bucket" system. One bucket is a soap/water, the other is pure water to rinse the mitt off between panels on the car. Work from top down. Use a wash sponge on the lower parts of the car first to remove dirt. Rinse often. Dry the car with a good, geniune chamois (not a SHAM-WOW
).
Next go over the entire car with a clay bar kit. I like Meguiar's "Smooth Surface" kit. This will remove all of the containments. Bascially you'll use a spray bottle, at a section at a time, use the spray, and then rub the 'clay bar' over the paint. You'll need to be continuity folding the bar to get the containments into the center of the bar (just fold in half and smush the bar).
Here's the thing/catch. Wax's are really just protectant's for the paint, a thick layer (relatively) of top coat that helps against UV and impact from small particles. Wax's that advertise to help with scratches, etc., have different compounds, etc that really don't help much. Wax's tend to wear away quickly. If the intent is to keep the car's finish top shelf for years to come, here is what I'd do, make the switch to a polish only system. Zaino is as highly respected in the industry as you can get. The downside is, initially setup is going to be a bit tedious, but the results will speak for themselves, and the upside is that the 'polish' will only need to be apply twice, maybe three times a year.
At first, I would try Zaino Z-5 Pro. It's a non-abrasive polish that removes very light scratches (what spider webs are). Since the car's paint is still new, this is as far as I'd go. DO NOT use any abrasives/rubbing compounds yet. The car's paint has not finished curring yet. It takes over 6 months. With an applicator pad, go over the car. You might have to repeat if necessary.
After the Z-5, follow with an application of Z-2 Pro w/ZFX for the intial application. Z-2 Pro is the bread and butter polish that replaces a traditional wax. Since your are layering Z-2 over Z-5, and this is the first time, you will need to use ZFX. ZFX is an accelrator you use a couple drops, in the provided mixing bottle with Z-2. With an applicator pad, go over the car. Less is more. You don't have to use a lot of product or use heavy force. Let dry and wipe off with a clean towel.
Finally, here is the fruit of your labor. From then on, after you wash the car, all you'll have to do is apply Z-6, which is a spray detailer. No more monthly/bi-weekly applications of a wax. Just mist Z-6 on, and wipe off. Z-2 will only needed applied 2 or 3 times a year.
Unfortunately Zaino products are only available online at zainostore.com
If anythingin the post needs touched on, lemme know. I realize it was kinda of abbreveated.
WOW, what an well informed, thoughtful, time consuming to write post! Aqua you are always willing to help somebody with any questions! A true SWF Aquarium asset!

Kudos!
p.s I always liked the Mequires and Mothers products!
 
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eric b 125

Guest
+1 on the mequires products. i was the detail manager at an exotic car dealership a few years ago and we swore by their products. also, a super good chamois is "the absorber".
 

aquaknight

Active Member
Originally Posted by MiaHeatLvr
http:///forum/post/2961788
WOW, what an well informed, thoughtful, time consuming to write post! Aqua you are always willing to help somebody with any questions! A true SWF Aquarium asset!

Kudos!
p.s I always liked the Mequires and Mothers products!

Originally Posted by Eric B 125

http:///forum/post/2961800
+1 on the mequires products. i was the detail manager at an exotic car dealership a few years ago and we swore by their products. also, a super good chamois is "the absorber".
Yea, for like tire shine, upholstery cleaners, applicators, brushes, etc, Mequires makes good stuff, noone can complain about.
For leather cleaner/conditioner, I use Zymol (commonly avaiable at Target). Hands down, it's one of the best smelling products I've ever used, and keeps my leather soft, even in the FL sun.
 

stdreb27

Active Member
Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2961872

Yea, for like tire shine, upholstery cleaners, applicators, brushes and stuff Mequires makes good stuff, noone can complain about.
For leather cleaner/conditioner, I use Zymol (commonly avaiable at Target). Hands down, it's one of the best smelling products I've ever used, and keeps my leather soft, even in the FL sun.
And WHATEVER you do don't use armorall.
I use a stuff called 40. I really like it.
 

scotts

Active Member
Originally Posted by MiaHeatLvr
http:///forum/post/2961788
WOW, what an well informed, thoughtful, time consuming to write post! Aqua you are always willing to help somebody with any questions! A true SWF Aquarium asset!

Kudos!
p.s I always liked the Mequires and Mothers products!
You are right! I changed the "title" under my avatar. I just hope everyone knows that AK=Aquaknight.
Well I have been doing some looking around and the Zaino stuff seems to be the stuff that either you love or hate. Mainly because of the cost. Me being a "frugal" person I am a little skeptical about spending a C note on car polish. But really in comparison I do not think it is that much more expensive. Plus if a little goes a long way like they are saying, I don't think it is really that expensive in the long run. Going to order some today!
Thanks
Scott
 

aquaknight

Active Member
Awesome, let us know how it goes, and definitely toss some pics up.
Here's some eye candy/inspiration for ya
I just took . The Caddy is pearl white, so I probably could use dish soap and it would look good, but either way. Second pic got kinda washed out from the direct sunlight...

 

jennythebugg

Active Member
wow ya'll would scream if you saw how dirty my car is right now - insert embarassed smiley here -
that was truly inspirational AquaKnight
 

scotts

Active Member
Dude! My car shines!!! I mean you can read DaVinci's diary off of it. (For those of you that don't know, he wrote his diary backwards) I did the clay bar, and 3 coats of Z-5. I still have to put on the ZCS but letting the Z-5 still dry. They say 3 coats max in 24 hours and I did it yesterday. There are still some of the spiderweb look to it, but I attribute that to operator error. I have some of their polisher, which took out the marks that I talked about before. This summer I will go over the entire car to get rid of the spider webs but for right now all I can say is that you, and Doc, were right. This stuff is awesome!
 

scotts

Active Member
Update. We traded in our van for a little around town car during cash for clunkers. I did not want to mess with the new car when we first got it home. Well a month and a half later it was obvious that it could use a shone. Friday I spent all day working on it and dude let me tell you once again, THANKS!
It looks amazing.
 
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