Arkey, Can I get your opinion

dragon eel

New Member
The white stuff that you have growing, looks probably like the same stuff I had growing on my LR in one of my previous tanks. I think it started when I used LR that I had from one of my reef tanks that was in storage from moving and forgot about. Then remembered it and had put it in my agressive tank.
It didn't start up right away after it was cycled it took probably about a month and spread it all over .Levels seemed to be fine and couldn't figure out what it was so I just left it and seemed to clear up after a couple months, fish and everything seemed fine and never hurt anything, never found out what it was from. mabey somthing got on it when it was in storage. at first I thought it was the coreline algea dying off until it started to spread. never could find anybody that could tell me what it was. wierd though. sure looks like the same stuff and if it is I can only say watch your levels and wait it out. hope this helps.
and for the redish stuff looks like somthing due to having a higher phosphate level but can't say for sure on that either.
 

snipe

Active Member

Originally posted by arkey.d
Maybe safe for anemones but not for inverts, which paulcoates asked about also.

Anemones are inverts. That is why there listed under the invert page and not the coral page.
 

arkey.d

Member

Originally posted by Snipe
Anemones are inverts. That is why there listed under the invert page and not the coral page.

Good Point
But for me, unless it said specifically safe to use with inverts I wouldn't use it......reef could mean just corals....otherwise why would it also say For Fish Only
 

snipe

Active Member
Fish only is for "fish only" If it is safe for only fish only then that means live rock and fish nothing els. If it is safe for a reef it would be safe for everything that is in a reef (I.E. Inverts, Corals, Fish, Live rock, and such)
 

jacknjill

Active Member

Originally posted by arkey.d
Do you mean will adding trace elements or vita chem or another additive hurt them, it would all depend on what the manufacturer says about the product.
I just looked on my bottle of Kent's Essential Elements bottle and it says for Fish Only and Reef Systems, so that would'nt be safe to add to a tank that has inverts.

really? ive been using that for years and all my inverts are fine
 

snipe

Active Member
On the scrubbing thing. Do a test for me scrub a small spot on the rock and see if it comes off easy. If it dose then it is a type of algea "or something similar" If not then it is the coralline algea turning white "can be cause buying shipping and such of that nature".
But by ("NO MEANS DO NOT") scurb it clean "if it even comes off" if you scrub everything clean it will cloady the tank and it will just come back even thicker than before. When you scrub algea it causes it to realease new algea cells into the water and then they atach to whatever and then you have more of it then when you started.
("thanks JacknJill nice backup on that lol")
See I know what im talking about lol
 

arkey.d

Member

Originally posted by JacknJill
really? ive been using that for years and all my inverts are fine

That is what the debate was about. I got confused by what the bottle said. "For Fish Only and Reef Systems", I didn't know why they stated both. I though it wasn't for SWAs that had inverts, but I misread........
Looks like I need to get more sleep, I admit when I am wrong and like I said I mis-understood what was written on the bottle.

Yes I wouldn't scrub it in the display tank, maybe take it out and put in a bucket of salt water then try and see what happens.
 

paulcoates

Member
I just tried to scrub it off with the rough side of a sponge but it didnt scrape off. I can only guess the green stuff that is encrusted on the outside of the rock turned white?
Maybe the guy who said he had his in storage for a few months is on to something? I had mine shipped across country mid January. Maybe the cold got to it? At any rate, his change back from white back to green
 

paulcoates

Member
I just spoke to the place I purchased it. They said that this is normal and that the next step is for this white stuff to start turning purple (coraline) According to them, from the time it turns purple, it might take anywhere from 2-4 weeks for the white to turn to purple
 

snipe

Active Member
If it didnt come off the nit is coralline algea that has turned white. There are many reasons for it to do this. If you keep your params right and have some good lights then it will turn back the original color in awhile.
 

paulcoates

Member
cool, well now that I have my lighting on the tank, I guess it should return back to normal
Two 65 watt 10,000K and two 65 watt True Actinic 03 Blue straight pin base compact fluorescent lamps
Four 3/4 watt Lunar Blue-Moon-Glow LED lamps
 

snipe

Active Member
Im am going to get some pc soon. I am going to get 2 jebo light fixtures it will be 440 watts total and I am going to DIY some moon lights.
 

arkey.d

Member
Paulcoates your light fixture is similiar to mine. I have an Orbit 4x65watt fixture. I love the dusk to dawn effect aswell as the Lunar lights...
 

big boy69

Member
I just noticed last night a couple of my rocks have that on them now. My tank has been running for about a month.
I add purple up and some other stuff for live rock, i think it's called total spectrum?????
I don't know what it is and i haven't tried scrubbing it.
All my parameters are fine, water's clear, fish are eating. So i'm not really worried.
Oh, by the way i use Oceanic salt. Is that good salt?
What is the BEST salt to use????????
 

snipe

Active Member
Yes dont mix salt what ever you started with keep using it or it will make a big diffrence in your tank.
 

big boy69

Member
In what way will it make a difference??
My buddy just ended up changing his reef tank over from Oceanic salt to the new Pro Marin salt.
What a difference!!!!!!!! His tank is sooooo much prettier now.
It really made a difference with his corals and everything. They're so much prettier now, open fuller they're a lot nicer.
 
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