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[puffer24/7]

this is the zebra eel that i plan on buying or should i start out with a smaller one also how thick does my sand bed have to be i would like it to be like 1 inch thick is that ok or maybe a lil bit more thicker but what do u think of the eel

 

[aw2]

The Zebra looks good. Make sure it's eating before you buy it. Provide enough rock work for it to completely hide it's body, for it to feel secure.
Also...I'm not the only one that can answer these questions. lol No need for "AW2" posts...there's many people here that know just as much as me. I enjoy answering your posts, but feel it should be left open to anyone...not just me.

 

[puffer24/7]

alright then but one last question goes out to the one and only aw2 is 1 inch of sand bed good enough i was going to use aragamax the really fine grade sand

 

[puffer24/7]

well what do u think aw2

 

[aw2]

That's fine...the biggest concern is having enough rock work/hiding places for the Moray.

 

[puffer24/7]

the tank has about 50+ pounds of it and will order a bit more just for the eel and i will make sure i make some caves and stuff for him

 

[aw2]

What sized tank are we talking about?

 

[puffer24/7]

135 oceanic 72x18x25

 

[aw2]

IMO, that tank isnt big enough to keep any of the fish you're wanting (Zebra, Dog Faced, Panther Grouper).

 

[puffer24/7]

please please tell me u are just kiddin everywhere else says its fine will i be ok the trusted and one and only aw2

 

[aw2]

Zebras can max out at 3.5 - 4 feet, Dog Faced Puffer will get to be around 14" - 16" and Panther Groupers grow to be a few FEET long...
The ONLY fish, out of those 3, that I'd even consider putting into that tank would be the Zebra Eel, but you're going to need ALOT more live rock to make it work.

 

[puffer24/7]

so the dog face wont be ok

 

[puffer24/7]

by the way will the wrasse keep the sand bed pretty clean

 

[puffer24/7]

could i put all wrasses in instead of my list before

 

[team2jndd]

How big are the fish though because they dont just grow to those sizes over night it takes many years. You can always upgrade in a few years when they become that long I dont know alot about the eels but I have kept panther groupers for years and they grow relatively slow ecspecially when they are limited by the size of their tank. aw2 deffinately knows alot more than i do but he also has the capability of having very large tanks and sometimes forgets that that isnt a luxury that we all have.

 

[dme]

If you not want to listen only to AW, then listen to an old timer (Dragon Moray Eels), your tank is too small for those fish just as AW said it is and being that you will have some type of fish as well and not those you had chosen, you should have a sand bed of around 2.5" with a good amount of LR.
Buddy ><{{{{">

 

[aw2]

Dog Faced and Panthers are not slow growers. They'll put on the majority of their size within the first year. It's not uncommon for people having 2" Panther Groupers and within 9 months, they're 6" - 8".
My philosiphy is "dont buy a fish that you dont have adequate room for, as an adult". People buy tanks and then buy fish that will greatly outgrow their tanks, with the intent to upgrade. Then, when it's time to upgrade, something happens, or they dont have the money, etc. and they're stuck with a fish that becomes stressed, diseased and eventually dies because of being cramped.
And, "they grow relatively slow ecspecially when they are limited by the size of their tank" is a very big misconception in this hobby.
I also did not start out with large tanks, like the ones I have today. My very first saltwater tank was a 12gal. JBJ Nano. Then, I upgraded to a 30, then to a 55 and then to my 200.

 

[puffer24/7]

but dude i have seen full grown dog faces in a 92 gallon bow front tank live perfectly in fact for several years also everywhere i read it says 100 gallons is adequate

 

[aw2]

Dog Faced Puffers can have a life span of 15 - 20 years. The one you saw in the 92gal. bowfront was most likely not an adult.
When you see places saying "100gal. tank", that's a minimum. And, where do you see that statement....most of the time at fish stores, or online fish stores. 99% of them are not into giving the best advice for the fish...they're in this business to make a profit.
If someone wants to put a 14" fish in a 100gal. tank, that's their own choice...but, I just cant see how that's responsible and trying to give the fish the best habitat.

 

[team2jndd]

My friend bought a 2 inch panther that is in his 150 and has been there for two years and is no more than 6 inches now.