puffer24/7
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my tank is 72x18x25 which gives the puffer plenty of room to move around and swim when it is fully grown i would be happy if i was him would it be better to go with a sfe
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aw2
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Originally Posted by team2jndd
My friend bought a 2 inch panther that is in his 150 and has been there for two years and is no more than 6 inches now.
Then something was happening where it wasnt getting the proper diet, housing (maybe it was being harassed by another fish), inadequte filtration or something for it to grow so slow.
My friend bought a 2 inch panther that is in his 150 and has been there for two years and is no more than 6 inches now.
Then something was happening where it wasnt getting the proper diet, housing (maybe it was being harassed by another fish), inadequte filtration or something for it to grow so slow.
aw2
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Originally Posted by puffer24/7
my tank is 72x18x25 which gives the puffer plenty of room to move around and swim when it is fully grown i would be happy if i was him would it be better to go with a sfe
Putting a 14" - 16" fish in a tank that's 18" deep would be like putting you in a closet and making you live there. Would you survive?...yeah, but would you be comfortable and happy?
my tank is 72x18x25 which gives the puffer plenty of room to move around and swim when it is fully grown i would be happy if i was him would it be better to go with a sfe
Putting a 14" - 16" fish in a tank that's 18" deep would be like putting you in a closet and making you live there. Would you survive?...yeah, but would you be comfortable and happy?
puffer24/7
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no it would be a walk in closet that would be fine
puffer24/7
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by the way they rarely get passed 1 foot in the home aquarium
puffer24/7
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well jcrim agrees at least he is on my side and many can say that your tank is overstocked but iam not going to go there tonight
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jcrim
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How'd I get roped into this conversation... I need another beer.
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puffer24/7
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lol u said it would be ok for the fish i chose but aw2 does not agree
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jcrim
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I was talking about compatibility with a coral catshark. Understand that a lot of these discussions are about opinions. AW2 has given his. Personally, I think a dogface would be ok in that tank along with the eel. A panther grouper would definitely outgrow the tank. Besides they are really ugly as adults. This is just my opinion.
puffer24/7
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what are really ugly the dog face
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jcrim
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A lot of people get fish and trade them when they get too large. Many object to this practice but I don't for most fish. I do have a problem with people getting large sharks, barracuda, green morays hoping to get rid of them later because it is very difficult to find an adequate home for them.
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jcrim
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No, panthers are really ugly. I really like dogfaces... especially black ones.
puffer24/7
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yea then i am deff not getting that then do u happen to have a pic of an old one
aw2
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Originally Posted by puffer24/7
well jcrim agrees at least he is on my side and many can say that your tank is overstocked but iam not going to go there tonight
How easy people turn on others, after just 10 minutes ago, begging for advice.
I dont see where jcrim has posted a "yea" or "nay" in this thread.
And, considering the fact that you havent the slightest idea what's in my tank, at the moment, you'd have no idea whether or not it was overstocked.
You post 37 "Hey, AW2, I need your help" posts and then dont take my advice. It doesnt matter to me what do or do not do...as I said, that's completely 100% up to you. But, dont ask for advice, not listen to it and then post snide remarks about the people you're begging for help.
well jcrim agrees at least he is on my side and many can say that your tank is overstocked but iam not going to go there tonight
How easy people turn on others, after just 10 minutes ago, begging for advice.
I dont see where jcrim has posted a "yea" or "nay" in this thread.
And, considering the fact that you havent the slightest idea what's in my tank, at the moment, you'd have no idea whether or not it was overstocked.
You post 37 "Hey, AW2, I need your help" posts and then dont take my advice. It doesnt matter to me what do or do not do...as I said, that's completely 100% up to you. But, dont ask for advice, not listen to it and then post snide remarks about the people you're begging for help.
puffer24/7
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chill dude i just saw some pics of ur tank and it looked over stocked ur prize dragon eel another eel dont know what kind a clown trigger and 2 other big fish from the pic dont know what they were though and u di give me good help its all opinions dude
mitzel
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Just My opinion but your tank is a not going to handle a panther grouper. A dog face will be ok , but not the most happiest fish.
Tanks have to be not only long but wide too. a tank can be a hundered feet long and hold a 1000 gallons but if its only a foot wide You can't house large fish in it. they have to have room to turn around. and to move FREE with out bumping into the back and front of the tank.
I fully agree with AW2 about buying fish with the idea of upgrading in the future. It's called murphys law.
Tanks have to be not only long but wide too. a tank can be a hundered feet long and hold a 1000 gallons but if its only a foot wide You can't house large fish in it. they have to have room to turn around. and to move FREE with out bumping into the back and front of the tank.
I fully agree with AW2 about buying fish with the idea of upgrading in the future. It's called murphys law.
mitzel
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Originally Posted by team2jndd
How big are the fish though because they dont just grow to those sizes over night it takes many years. You can always upgrade in a few years when they become that long I dont know alot about the eels but I have kept panther groupers for years and they grow relatively slow ecspecially when they are limited by the size of their tank. aw2 deffinately knows alot more than i do but he also has the capability of having very large tanks and sometimes forgets that that isnt a luxury that we all have.
Panther groupers DO NOT GROW SLOW and NO HEALTHY FISH OF ANY KIND WILL GROW TO ITS ENVIORMENT. I wish people would stop trying to pass this of as fact. A big fish that healthy will grow to be a big fish A big fish thats kept in a small of a tank will suffer and more than likely die Before it can reach its full potential.
How big are the fish though because they dont just grow to those sizes over night it takes many years. You can always upgrade in a few years when they become that long I dont know alot about the eels but I have kept panther groupers for years and they grow relatively slow ecspecially when they are limited by the size of their tank. aw2 deffinately knows alot more than i do but he also has the capability of having very large tanks and sometimes forgets that that isnt a luxury that we all have.
Panther groupers DO NOT GROW SLOW and NO HEALTHY FISH OF ANY KIND WILL GROW TO ITS ENVIORMENT. I wish people would stop trying to pass this of as fact. A big fish that healthy will grow to be a big fish A big fish thats kept in a small of a tank will suffer and more than likely die Before it can reach its full potential.
dme
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Listen, this thread really needs to chill it a bit for note that only asking for AW2 thoughts only on this topic is wrong in the first place for any number of ideas would work here for as most of what AW2 had said is to the point and in specking wise talking long term of the fish and not just a few years only.
or not every marine hobbyists feed the same as well within nutritional foods at that so many things do come into play and a point in this can come from anyone and even a novice hobbyist who only a few years in the hobby can add to this little conversation for it all depends much on each individual marine hobbyist for i still see that the simplest things in this hobby is still this day hard for many to comprehend the aggressiveness of the fish natural backgrounds and each marine species in its own rite has some aggressive level that must be respected. And specially if one wants to be so successful in this hobby best begin looking in things in this way, for a zebra eel or SF, whichever, I wouldn't house a grouper with these eels.
See, as AW2, I too not agree with most here for the dogface will do find from juvenile for a long time if it came to when you might have to exchange it for a juvenile again but a fish that will grow 2' or more, is wasteful in getting in the first place, for within all normal happenings, this fish would grow faster then what one here said one his friends has done, for it has to be that it something was not normally done for that fish in all the right ways.
AW2 is not the only person in this hobby with prize eel(s) for there has to be so many hundreds of others for even myself, I a prize eel or two and will have more when finally my two reef tanks are running.
So in short to fish issue opinions, there be so many who can make their thoughts heard here and not just one person, what if it be only because he a large tank as I think i readied it here for that isn't a right thing to assume of for there be many with larger tanks and they fail so miserably, so will you ask all those who has a large tank? I not think you would and if it be your answer be that you would, I myself would then list your name to ones i will not further view and future threads.
Listen, this thread really needs to chill it a bit for note that only asking for AW2 thoughts only on this topic is wrong in the first place for any number of ideas would work here for as most of what AW2 had said is to the point and in specking wise talking long term of the fish and not just a few years only.
or not every marine hobbyists feed the same as well within nutritional foods at that so many things do come into play and a point in this can come from anyone and even a novice hobbyist who only a few years in the hobby can add to this little conversation for it all depends much on each individual marine hobbyist for i still see that the simplest things in this hobby is still this day hard for many to comprehend the aggressiveness of the fish natural backgrounds and each marine species in its own rite has some aggressive level that must be respected. And specially if one wants to be so successful in this hobby best begin looking in things in this way, for a zebra eel or SF, whichever, I wouldn't house a grouper with these eels.
See, as AW2, I too not agree with most here for the dogface will do find from juvenile for a long time if it came to when you might have to exchange it for a juvenile again but a fish that will grow 2' or more, is wasteful in getting in the first place, for within all normal happenings, this fish would grow faster then what one here said one his friends has done, for it has to be that it something was not normally done for that fish in all the right ways.
AW2 is not the only person in this hobby with prize eel(s) for there has to be so many hundreds of others for even myself, I a prize eel or two and will have more when finally my two reef tanks are running.
So in short to fish issue opinions, there be so many who can make their thoughts heard here and not just one person, what if it be only because he a large tank as I think i readied it here for that isn't a right thing to assume of for there be many with larger tanks and they fail so miserably, so will you ask all those who has a large tank? I not think you would and if it be your answer be that you would, I myself would then list your name to ones i will not further view and future threads.
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or not every marine hobbyists feed the same as well within nutritional foods at that so many things do come into play and a point in this can come from anyone and even a novice hobbyist who only a few years in the hobby can add to this little conversation for it all depends much on each individual marine hobbyist for i still see that the simplest things in this hobby is still this day hard for many to comprehend the aggressiveness of the fish natural backgrounds and each marine species in its own rite has some aggressive level that must be respected. And specially if one wants to be so successful in this hobby best begin looking in things in this way, for a zebra eel or SF, whichever, I wouldn't house a grouper with these eels.
See, as AW2, I too not agree with most here for the dogface will do find from juvenile for a long time if it came to when you might have to exchange it for a juvenile again but a fish that will grow 2' or more, is wasteful in getting in the first place, for within all normal happenings, this fish would grow faster then what one here said one his friends has done, for it has to be that it something was not normally done for that fish in all the right ways.
AW2 is not the only person in this hobby with prize eel(s) for there has to be so many hundreds of others for even myself, I a prize eel or two and will have more when finally my two reef tanks are running.
So in short to fish issue opinions, there be so many who can make their thoughts heard here and not just one person, what if it be only because he a large tank as I think i readied it here for that isn't a right thing to assume of for there be many with larger tanks and they fail so miserably, so will you ask all those who has a large tank? I not think you would and if it be your answer be that you would, I myself would then list your name to ones i will not further view and future threads.
Listen, this thread really needs to chill it a bit for note that only asking for AW2 thoughts only on this topic is wrong in the first place for any number of ideas would work here for as most of what AW2 had said is to the point and in specking wise talking long term of the fish and not just a few years only.
or not every marine hobbyists feed the same as well within nutritional foods at that so many things do come into play and a point in this can come from anyone and even a novice hobbyist who only a few years in the hobby can add to this little conversation for it all depends much on each individual marine hobbyist for i still see that the simplest things in this hobby is still this day hard for many to comprehend the aggressiveness of the fish natural backgrounds and each marine species in its own rite has some aggressive level that must be respected. And specially if one wants to be so successful in this hobby best begin looking in things in this way, for a zebra eel or SF, whichever, I wouldn't house a grouper with these eels.
See, as AW2, I too not agree with most here for the dogface will do find from juvenile for a long time if it came to when you might have to exchange it for a juvenile again but a fish that will grow 2' or more, is wasteful in getting in the first place, for within all normal happenings, this fish would grow faster then what one here said one his friends has done, for it has to be that it something was not normally done for that fish in all the right ways.
AW2 is not the only person in this hobby with prize eel(s) for there has to be so many hundreds of others for even myself, I a prize eel or two and will have more when finally my two reef tanks are running.
So in short to fish issue opinions, there be so many who can make their thoughts heard here and not just one person, what if it be only because he a large tank as I think i readied it here for that isn't a right thing to assume of for there be many with larger tanks and they fail so miserably, so will you ask all those who has a large tank? I not think you would and if it be your answer be that you would, I myself would then list your name to ones i will not further view and future threads.
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