bamboo sharks...

adee

Member
*any information on them? *what have been your experiences with them?
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how big is the best size to get them (in terms of them doing well long term)?
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pictures?
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PM me where you get your sharks/eels/sting rays
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I see the minimum tank size 180 gallons, but how quickly do they grow? my LFS is encouraging us to get a shark (we would love to have one anyway) and they will buy it from us when it gets too big for our tank and we could get another one if we enjoy having it enough.
TIA!
 

salt life

Active Member
Originally Posted by ADEE
http:///forum/post/2949742
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any information on them?
*
what have been your experiences with them?
*
how big is the best size to get them (in terms of them doing well long term)?
*
pictures?
*
PM me where you get your sharks/eels/sting rays
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I see the minimum tank size 180 gallons, but how quickly do they grow? my LFS is encouraging us to get a shark (we would love to have one anyway) and they will buy it from us when it gets too big for our tank and we could get another one if we enjoy having it enough.
TIA!
getting a shark you will either have to buy an egg and hatch it, or find a pup that is already eating.. if you buy a pup you would have to start it out in a smaller tank to make sure it starts eating and is healthy then move it over to your 180. you won't be able to keep it in a 180 for long, ( don't want to say an exact time amount because i'm not certain) but my guess would be no longer than a year depending on how fast it will grow. IMO it is a bad idea to get a shark/ray unless you have the correct size tank to house it for it's life and not have to transfer it around or sell it back, there is no point in stressing the animal just because you "want" a shark.
 

adee

Member
ive read (Although there are a ton of threads here that disagree via the search engine) that coral cat sharks average about 26" and can be kept in a 125... of course bigger is always better but it would do just fine in a 125. I do have about 130lbs of live rock (See my thread in share your aquarium) that is formed into large caves leaving quite a bit of sand space/swimming space/exc/
 

crypt keeper

Active Member
There are shark people on here. I do know you shouldnt keep triggers with sharks and small fish. If do a shark your water must be perfect. Do have an RO system?
 

aquaknight

Active Member
Originally Posted by ADEE
http:///forum/post/2949787
ive read (Although there are a ton of threads here that disagree via the search engine) that coral cat sharks average about 26" and can be kept in a 125... of course bigger is always better but it would do just fine in a 125. I do have about 130lbs of live rock (See my thread in share your aquarium) that is formed into large caves leaving quite a bit of sand space/swimming space/exc/
I would hope you answered yourself in your own question. How is a 26" long fish, suppose to live in a 18" wide tank? They're sharks, not eels....
 

crypt keeper

Active Member
Dont take this the wrong way but you really have no idea what you want out of this tank do you? In your picture thread you say you are getting a stingray. Which your tank is too small for and your rock work is all wrong for one. Then you post in here that you want a shark.
I think you should sit back. Kick your feet up do a lot of research and find out what fish you can and cannot have. Think about color. Aggressivness. Easy to care for. Size. Find out which fish can live in harmony with others. Right now you have new large tank fever. Its a big tank and you want big fish. Some just get too big.
Your rock may have been curred but it did have some die off. If you check your water you will have ammonia. Its going to take a couple weeks before you can add a single fish. Use this time be honest with yourself. The fish and your tank. These fish live and die by our actions.
 

adee

Member
were doing our research which is why were posting so many threads, we have spent hours upon hours reading elsewhere also. Our tank is big enough for a bluespot stingray which we do have intentions of getting, is the minimum size tank not 75 gallons, that may be the minimum but we have an extra 50 gallons on that minimum do we not?. Ive also posted repeatedly that we have intentions of getting at least a hippo tang, some kind of butterfly were just undecided as to which one and a zebra eel (our snowflake will be moving into the bigger tank first) We have complete understanding that our tank is going to take awhile to cycle but why is there such harm in asking questions while we wait? We would like to have a shark for our tank, its not big tank fever, its we did what is always suggested. Get a tank as big as you can afford/do (in our case a tank that fits the wall we put it on).
As it stands right now our ammonia levels (0) are actually not high, neither are our nitrates (0). we test our water (in both tanks now) twice a week at a reputable FS in addition to our home test kit because we want to know whats going on with it at all times.. what was a bit high was our PH (8.9) and our nitrite (.75) We are well aware that we cant put anything in the tank for awhile.
Thanks for your input but please dont assume.
 

crimzy

Active Member
In either case, a blue spot ray or a bamboo shark would outgrow that size tank within a year, if they survive that long. The suggested tank size of 75 gallons is actually about 1/4 of what you actually need. Good luck but I hope that you choose speciees that you are likely to have more success with in a 125 than sharks and rays. The only shark that would be even remotely possible would be a coral catshark. Bamboos get up to 40" or so.
BTW, 130 lbs of liverock is too much in that size tank for those types of specimens. Good luck.
 

adee

Member
thanks for your input crimzy. we have made sure to have "beach" like spaces in our tank for the ray even though its difficult to tell from the pictures i posted.. ill have to take some from above the tank instead of through the side and front, plus our rock was pretty heavy and its stacked fairly high... we have also debated moving our rock so its more centered (making more room for swimming) we had ordered 150lbs of rock.. good thing we didnt take it all

we had been researching the coral catshark more and more because of its smaller top out length/size
 

unleashed

Active Member
there is no shark that can live in a 125 for long sharks grow quickly and need plenty of water flow and room to move.. as for your LFS it sounds like they are just trying to boost a sale.. or they have no clue what they are talking about.. my white spot bamboo reached 2 ft within one yr .. as for purchasing a pup My LFS purchased my from sea world aquarium for me so it was captive bread.. I also housed him in a 300 gal tank one he outgrew his smaller juv tank which didnt take long at all..



 

crypt keeper

Active Member
Originally Posted by ADEE
http:///forum/post/2950026
were doing our research which is why were posting so many threads, we have spent hours upon hours reading elsewhere also. Our tank is big enough for a bluespot stingray which we do have intentions of getting, is the minimum size tank not 75 gallons, that may be the minimum but we have an extra 50 gallons on that minimum do we not?. Ive also posted repeatedly that we have intentions of getting at least a hippo tang, some kind of butterfly were just undecided as to which one and a zebra eel (our snowflake will be moving into the bigger tank first) We have complete understanding that our tank is going to take awhile to cycle but why is there such harm in asking questions while we wait? We would like to have a shark for our tank, its not big tank fever, its we did what is always suggested. Get a tank as big as you can afford/do (in our case a tank that fits the wall we put it on).
Thanks for your input but please dont assume.
You still have so much to learn. People are trying to help you. Yet you post like you know everything with your statements. Im not assuming anything. You want this and want that and base it off what you read on websites that are trying to sell you a fish to make money.
Why dont you check out Crimzys 450 gallon tank thread. He has rays and they uses every inch of his tank. To say a 75 is the minimum is a joke. To think for one second your ray will be okay in your 125 is a joke as well. Look at his "beach". You cant honestly say you the same beach area like he does. You rock all the way across your tank. There is no where for a ray to just lay flat. The stingray you are looking gets over 2 feet wide in diameter. Your tank is only 18 inches. That means the ray will never ever be allowed to lay flat. You think that is okay?
People live in a 4x8 jail cell as well. You would be pretty pissed off if everyday you had to watch your head from hitting a wall or your arms smashing into the sides. Check out the Minimum for a tessalata eel as well. It gets to 6 feet long. Bigger than some people and they say it can be kept in a tiny 150 or 180. Think about it.
You are set on two fish. A hippo Tang and a Snowflake that you already bought. You are still undecided on other fish. In my post I clearly said that your tank will take some time so why not figure out a fish list. That is why we are here to help. But when you make remarks be snappy and put the roll eyes dude you will lose the help of all of us really quickly.
 

adee

Member
Originally Posted by crypt keeperhttp:///forum/post/2950271
You want this and want that and base it off what you read on websites that are trying to sell you a fish to make money. Im not reading on "sale" website but rather websites with caresheets,information,exc. its not just about the websites like here that offer sale
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Why dont you check out Crimzys 450 gallon tank thread. He has rays and they uses every inch of his tank. To say a 75 is the minimum is a joke. To think for one second your ray will be okay in your 125 is a joke as well. Look at his "beach". You cant honestly say you the same beach area like he does. your right it looks nothing like ours, he has like 325 gallons on us
You rock all the way across your tank. i also said weve reconsidered our rock formation to be more fitting
There is no where for a ray to just lay flat. The stingray you are looking gets over 2 feet wide in diameter. Your tank is only 18 inches. That means the ray will never ever be allowed to lay flat. You think that is okay? no, when you put it that way its not ok, how long will it possibly take it to get that wide and do all BSSR get that wide in diameter?

You are set on two fish. A hippo Tang and a Snowflake that you already bought. You are still undecided on other fish. In my post I clearly said that your tank will take some time so why not figure out a fish list. I still dont understand why its not ok to ask and clear possible lists while were waiting.. this is a forum for learning right?
That is why we are here to help. and thats why im asking, because i obviously dont know it all so i come to people who are perhaps more knowledgable then myself, im simply clearing up conflicting information from people who are local to us, everyone and their mother has told me to stay away from forums and yet i still come here to get a more broad range of help, information and input
But when you make remarks be snappy and put the roll eyes dude you will lose the help of all of us really quickly.i wasnt being snappy so please dont take it that way, its terribly difficult to read tone via internet. the eye roll was my own sarcasm in thinking we actually almost took 150lbs of rock for the tank, not in reflection of what the PP said, and further more im not a dude

thank you all for your continued assistance
 

salt life

Active Member
Originally Posted by ADEE
http:///forum/post/2950026
we did what is always suggested. Get a tank as big as you can afford/do (in our case a tank that fits the wall we put it on).
that is correct, you get a tank that you can afford but you have to get fish that can live in that size tank, not put whatever fish in that you want just because you want to go by the minimums and down the road will get rid of it.
 

crypt keeper

Active Member
Originally Posted by ADEE
http:///forum/post/2950472
thank you all for your continued assistance

You're very much welcome.
Im saying to come on here and get a list review and help. Hell you posted in my thread about my fiassco that has happened to me. This board helps more than any LFS or know it all in the fish store who doesnt work there and talks just to talk and everybody in line just wishes they would shut up.
We have no bias. We are not trying to make money. There are more people on this board than in any LFS that have the passion about this hobby and our animals that will help you. That have done it all and messed up or done it succesfully. I think you are taking what im saying wrong. By all means post post post about a possible list. Post up any questions you have. Ask away.
Sory for the misunderstanding. Im actually one of the bigger fans for your thread and even took to the time to PM you and try and help.
 

adee

Member
Originally Posted by crypt keeper
http:///forum/post/2950729
Sory for the misunderstanding. Im actually one of the bigger fans for your thread and even took to the time to PM you and try and help.
I really do appreciate your help and that you took the extra time to give me one on one help, it speaks volumes for your charecter. i really do. Im very sorry for the loss you have incured with your tank, i certainly wouldnt wish that on anyone. I do agree this is a wonderful forum to be a part of.. i wouldnt want to be a part of any other forum, and believe you me ive looked around at the other forums. I look forward to this tank cycling and hopefully being able to stock it with our favorite fish. (even if that means we cant get the ray or shark we were looking forward to)
Thanks again ((hugs)) for your loss...
Im Ashley, nice to unofficially meet you, it seems as though there are few females on this forum and i know my member name may be misleading in terms of gender. Ive been a "dude" a few times already lol
 

adee

Member
I would love for you to take another look at our tank.. we removed alot of the rock and moved things around, there is a TON of swimming space now. I need to get a pic of it straight down so you can see just how much room there actually is in the tank.
 

meowzer

Moderator
ADEE, I have a 225g and I have a cortez ray...they are one of the smaller rays. I got it at 3" dia., and in 4 months it has more than doubled....I (personally) would not put any type of ray in anything smaller than a 225....I watch it every day...it has 3 beaches, but I am worried that if it doubles again I may not have room for it to be truly happy...Thing is you get attached, and I would hate to have to give it away...I hand feed it and have become very attached....
That said, please think about it, I truly think (IMO) a 125 is too small for a ray..
 

it's chuck

Member
Originally Posted by ADEE
http:///forum/post/2950921
Im Ashley, nice to unofficially meet you, it seems as though there are few females on this forum and i know my member name may be misleading in terms of gender. Ive been a "dude" a few times already lol
"I'm a dude, he's a dude, she's a dude, where all dudes."
 
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