Bamboo's in small tanks

[reeftank27]

First off I have owned a few banded cats a while back. All I have now is a smaller stingray but that not the point. Yes I was the one that said barracudas should not be kept in a home aquarium they get much bigger than a small banded cat shark and swim a lot more than a bottom dwelling shark. I understand that it was a 3 year old shark, the longest I have ever kept a shark was about a year and half and he didn’t grow that much but I was assuming that the shark was still small. Like I said I wouldn’t keep a shark in there if it wasn’t a baby. I would like to know how big the shark is in the 55 gallon. And as far as a 125 being to small for a 12” shark I’m not wrong, do the math, if a 6 inch is ok in a 40 breeder than a 12” would do just fine in a 125. I believe the min for a banded cat is what 180 to 220? At least that’s what a lot of places say. And that’s for a bigger banded cat. Now a 125 is 6ft by 24 by 18 and a 180 or a 220 is how much bigger 6ft by 24 by 27. I’m sorry but 6 inches isn’t a heck of a lot of difference. And I wouldn’t put a full grown shark in a 220, I was saying a 12” shark for a 125 and he would have plenty of room to turn around and could have nice hiding spots if a cave was made right for him. And as far as sharks moving, mine didn’t do a lot of swimming, I read in sharks and rays that if a banded cat is swimming during the day that there is something that is upsetting him, only time he should really swim is at feeding time or night. And I’m far from someone that would want to see a shark in a small tank but I don’t think that a 125 is too small for a 12” shark. Yes a 55 is way to small for a 12” shark and I know you have a beautiful 12 inch shark and a nice ray unless I’m confused you with someone else? I read so many posts I can’t remember anymore. With all this being said, everyone is going to have different opinions and my way is the right way mentality. You can’t save every shark from jerks that are going to put them in small tanks. And my friend that has him in a 40 breeder was just hatching him in there and getting him strong enough and to make sure he was eating good enough for a bigger tank. Wow this was a long one lol.

 

[psusocr1]

like i said i respect your opinion but i agree to diasagree i have a 12" shark right now and
cannot imagien him in anythign less than 200 + gallons,, so much so that im already building a new tank for him!

 

[reeftank27]

and im very happy that there are good shark owners like yourself out there

 

[ltf]

Originally Posted by LTF
I'm looking to hear from people who have kept sharks in small tanks and kept them in good health. What size tanks do you have, how are you feeding and how often, what's your temp etc. What size are your sharks and how big are they. I know you guys are out there...please post about your "contrary tanks". There is a guy here in my town who's had a bamboo in a 55 for 3 years and his fish is happy and healthy. Is this just a one off situation...just wondering. Thanks.
That was my post from this morning. I'm sorry guys but some of you (and you know who you are) really need to get a life off a message board You are way to ready to think what you have pre-programmed yourselves to want to read into posts.
Read that post again...at no time in it do I say I am going to be keeping anything in any sized tank so you really have jumped on the wrong angle here.
I am new to saltwater, I'm not however ignorant, stupid, naieve or without more than enough money to house all of my animals adequatly. My parrot has an entire Florida room to free fly around complete with live plants, trees (all chosen because they are non toxic)and running water. My horses have 50 acres to gallop around all day long (my stallion has his own mare band)
That said...my LFS has a banded egg in stock. Knowing nothing about them I asked the store owner for info. He told me, no... he "assured" me, very convincingly that it can be hatched and housed in a 20L and kept in a 55. He told me of one customer with a 55 and about his shark that he's had in there for years. He told me that they don't grow more than an inch or so for the first year and no more than 12 inches altogether.
It didn't sound right to me so I started my own research. I found this site and asked you guys for your input on raising bamboos in small tanks. I already did a search and saw all the posts about large tanks but wondered if anyone really has done what he insisted could easily be done. Obviously it can't and now I know. All I needed was polite, educational information. Some gave that..thank you.
I like the look of the marbled cat and - for those who are convinced of whatever they want to believe - I am for real and I do have one now on order for whenever he can get it located and sent.

 

[crimzy]

Originally Posted by LTF
That was my post from this morning. I'm sorry guys but some of you (and you know who you are) really need to get a life off a message board You are way to ready to think what you have pre-programmed yourselves to want to read into posts.
Read that post again...at no time in it do I say I am going to be keeping anything in any sized tank so you really have jumped on the wrong angle here.
I am new to saltwater, I'm not however ignorant, stupid, naieve or without more than enough money to house all of my animals adequatly. My parrot has an entire Florida room to free fly around complete with live plants, trees (all chosen because they are non toxic)and running water. My horses have 50 acres to gallop around all day long (my stallion has his own mare band)
That said...my LFS has a banded egg in stock. Knowing nothing about them I asked the store owner for info. He told me, no... he "assured" me, very convincingly that it can be hatched and housed in a 20L and kept in a 55. He told me of one customer with a 55 and about his shark that he's had in there for years. He told me that they don't grow more than an inch or so for the first year and no more than 12 inches altogether.
It didn't sound right to me so I started my own research. I found this site and asked you guys for your input on raising bamboos in small tanks. I already did a search and saw all the posts about large tanks but wondered if anyone really has done what he insisted could easily be done. Obviously it can't and now I know. All I needed was polite, educational information. Some gave that..thank you.
I like the look of the marbled cat and - for those who are convinced of whatever they want to believe - I am for real and I do have one now on order for whenever he can get it located and sent.

Instead of all this controversy, you could have just mentioned what size tank you were looking to keep it in.... I notice that detail is still noticeably missing from your statements. People around here tend to be very protective over their favorite fishes.

 

[aw2]

Thank you for educating us all on how ignorant we are.
You posted, looking for a fight...that's blatantly obvious. If that wasnt the case, you would have explained that you had already researched, didnt believe the advice that was given to you, had already planned on a bigger tank, etc.
You come down on everyone, saying we all need to get a life, but you clearly started this with the intent or causing trouble. Does it make you feel good that you got everyone riled up, only so you can jump in later and tell us all what losers we are?

 

[mile_high]

Originally Posted by AW2
Thank you for educating us all on how ignorant we are.
You posted, looking for a fight...that's blatantly obvious. If that wasnt the case, you would have explained that you had already researched, didnt believe the advice that was given to you, had already planned on a bigger tank, etc.
You come down on everyone, saying we all need to get a life, but you clearly started this with the intent or causing trouble. Does it make you feel good that you got everyone riled up, only so you can jump in later and tell us all what losers we are?
That seams to be the trend lately of this and other forums.

 

[ltf]

Originally Posted by AW2
Thank you for educating us all on how ignorant we are.
You posted, looking for a fight...that's blatantly obvious. If that wasnt the case, you would have explained that you had already researched, didnt believe the advice that was given to you, had already planned on a bigger tank, etc.
You come down on everyone, saying we all need to get a life, but you clearly started this with the intent or causing trouble. Does it make you feel good that you got everyone riled up, only so you can jump in later and tell us all what losers we are?
I rest my case.
I have way better things going on in my life that to pick fights. How you can interpret that from my post, sure shows a lot about how you look at life. My post asked a straight forward question you read into it what you wanted. As for tank size...well isn't it pretty obvious that if I'm asking about tank sizes for these fish that I DON"T yet have one?
Anyhow, thanks again, and now I'll trot off, put my ponies in the barn for the night.
Bon Voyage people.

 

[aw2]

Dont let the door hit you in the {edit}, on your way out.
Say hi to Hoss, Little Joe and all the rest of the Ponderosa gang, while you're putting your wild stallions away, for the night.

 

[ophiura]

WHOA folks....
People on both sides of this DO need to look at how they answer these questions, because BOTH sides often overreact to it. Having said that, the original question is downright loaded, and the later clarification doesn't help it.
The initial post said that someone said a bamboo was happy and healthy in a 55g for several years which has to be complete, well.....OK, maybe it is someone who really doesn't KNOW a happy and healthy shark. But seemed to solicite other opinions that would basically agree with that.
I've worked with a good 2 dozen newly hatched bamboos for over a year, and let me tell you how alarmingly fast they grow. And let me tell anyone who says they are not active how many actually got out of their shallow holding tank and ended up dry on the floor.
These sharks, IMO, would EASILY outgrow a 55g within a year or so if...IF.... you are inclined to recognize it. I can't even imagine one in a 55g for 3 years. Wait, yes I can, and it isn't pretty

Now, do I think a smaller tank has advantages for a newly hatched shark? Yuppers. Works very nicely. Can grow them up very well. But this is not the same as keeping one in a 55g tank, and the original post could be easily misinterpreted that way.
So I fully appreciate people's reaction to this post but would hope that everyone would just chill a bit. There is responsibility on both sides, however. If you post a loaded question, then people will respond very emotionally. All in all, I think it is desirable that people show so much passion for certain issues. Everyone is invited to take what they want from the answers...but let's watch the actual exchange.