Banded shark?

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barkdog

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Hi all,
As I posted earlier this week I've got a 180 (6ft x 2ft x 2ft) gallon tank. The current occupants are (all under 5"): humu trigger, volitans lion, sailfin tang, porcupine puffer, foxface and a pearlscale butterfly. I'm looking for something interesting to add to the tank. Could a small shark fit in with this group? If so, should I wait until the current group grows a bit? Or would a small shark fit in with their current size? How fast do sharks grow? What kinds of sharks can I consider (if any)?
 
mitzel

mitzel

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Well at least 50% of the fish you have are not compatible with sharks. Sorry but No sharks or rays will work. You might think of a eel.
 
unleashed

unleashed

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be very cautious when adding any new fish to this tank huma trigger have been known to be fine in a display tank for long periods of time then one day go crazy and kill everything in the tank.this has been recorded numerous amounts of times.as for tank size shark recomendation the banded cat ( IE bamboo) can do fine in the min of 180 g tank.an ell could do fine but your trigger is your biggest problem when it comes to adding new tank mates.
 
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barkdog

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Thanks for the info.
I've seen triggers have major attitude changes before. The current one is a pretty friendly one, and hasn't shown any aggression towards anyone yet. If he does change, I'll still have my old tank to put him in.
 
unleashed

unleashed

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I had a small huma trigger in my 100 fowlr I was going to add my shark to that b4 I got the 300.so I sold him back to LFS.he was the only fish I had in that tank that was listed as def not compatible with the shark.my 100 gal contains
med sized maroon clown
vol lion
sailfin tang
2 bird wrasses (male and female)
hippo tang. once i get the 300 up and running my reef tank contents will all be moved over and any reef safe fish from both 100 and 125 will be added.making my way down to 2 tanks
 
titan

titan

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Yeah the Puffer will periodically pick at the shark. Not ruthless but nevertheless cause open wounds. However the trigger "MIGHT" ignore the shark for months maybe years,and one day out've boredom will start chewing on its back. Our Hummu is friendly as can be (except for inverts) never harrassing tankmates. I left 1 coral in our 100GL to see if it could be done,haveing ignoring it for quite some time,and even swimming through it,he decided to get medevil :mad:
 
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barkdog

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I guess I'll have to do without a shark. We're too attached to the humu and the puffer. Both are friendly as can be, and eat out of my hand, but I know that this can change, especially as they grow larger.
I'm still considering a Moray, but one "expert" said that would cause too much bio-load on the 180 gallon tank with the current fish, though I'm not sure if I agree. My 90 gallon seems to house them fine now... perfect water quality, though they are all small and will be growing quite a bit.
Assuming that after growing up a bit, my water quality stays good, does anyone have any rec's for a moray eel? I like the tessellated and goldentail, but I understand they dont come out much. I read the spotted moray is the one seen swimming out and about most often. I'd prefer a more active fish.
 
ams153

ams153

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im confused now i thought those fish were all in the 180 but then later you said there doing fine in the 90.. very confused. BUT if your worried about it being to big a bioload if you get some huge moray then just get a smaller one like the snowflake eel.. there very cool.. though not out as much as id like.. but its very fun at feeding time.. comes right out when it smells the food.. and its head is sticking out all day so i can at least always see it.. just a thought.
 
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barkdog

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Sorry for the confusion... the fish currently reside in a 90, but I just ourchased a 180. Once my basement is refinished and the 180 is cycled, the current fish will move into the 180. I was soliciting opinions for what to add to the tank once I expand. All of the current fish are in the 90. All (or most) of the fish will move into the 180.
Anyways, the fish recommended to me from this and other boards were small sharks, eel's and/or large angels. One guy said there is no way I should add anything. Most others said I should get an eel or angel. Pretty much everyone has told me that the humu and puffer cant go with a small shark so sharks are out.
My inclination is that though I think that the guy who said I have too much bio-load is overly cautious; I'd rather not prove him right. So my current plan is to let the current group grow up a bit. If all stays well I'll consider adding an eel or angel. If my docile humu or puffer go psycho, I still have my 90 amongst other tanks to relegate them or other fish to accommodate the aggression.
So short story is, I'm now asking questions for (hopefully somewhat distant) future purchases.
 
lionfu411

lionfu411

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angels are very nice. there are some absolutely gorgeous varieties. i would say go with one of those. for an eel i would recommend a snowflake or moray. also a pretty cool "eel" is the green wolf eel. it is actually a psuedochromis (i think) but is shaped and acts like an eel.
i just realized you have a lion in there. WATCH OUT for the trigger and puffer. they both have a tendency to chew on stuff and a lions large fins would fit the bill. i would just watch closely for nipped fins. and if it stings one of em than you may lose 2 fish.
 
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barkdog

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Thanks for the heads up. I've had a few triggers before, but this is my first puffer. So far things are going well (6 motnhs). In the event things turn sour, I can split up the group.
 
mitzel

mitzel

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Originally Posted by LionFu411
angels are very nice. there are some absolutely gorgeous varieties. i would say go with one of those. for an eel i would recommend a snowflake or moray. also a pretty cool "eel" is the green wolf eel. it is actually a psuedochromis (i think) but is shaped and acts like an eel.
i just realized you have a lion in there. WATCH OUT for the trigger and puffer. they both have a tendency to chew on stuff and a lions large fins would fit the bill. i would just watch closely for nipped fins. and if it stings one of em than you may lose 2 fish.
The snowflake eel is actually a member of the moray family. and corect me if I'm wrong but I belive the green wolf eel is actually in the gobby family? Not posative about that but I remember seeing something to that fact.
 
unleashed

unleashed

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yes the snowflake is a member of the moray family and the green wolf eel is accually of the blenny phsudochromis family
 
unleashed

unleashed

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Originally Posted by barkdog
Sorry for the confusion... the fish currently reside in a 90, but I just ourchased a 180. Once my basement is refinished and the 180 is cycled, the current fish will move into the 180. I was soliciting opinions for what to add to the tank once I expand. All of the current fish are in the 90. All (or most) of the fish will move into the 180.
Anyways, the fish recommended to me from this and other boards were small sharks, eel's and/or large angels. One guy said there is no way I should add anything. Most others said I should get an eel or angel. Pretty much everyone has told me that the humu and puffer cant go with a small shark so sharks are out.
My inclination is that though I think that the guy who said I have too much bio-load is overly cautious; I'd rather not prove him right. So my current plan is to let the current group grow up a bit. If all stays well I'll consider adding an eel or angel. If my docile humu or puffer go psycho, I still have my 90 amongst other tanks to relegate them or other fish to accommodate the aggression.
So short story is, I'm now asking questions for (hopefully somewhat distant) future purchases.
everyone is on a shark frenzy this yr it seams I also jumped onto that bandwagon.they are not as easy to keep as they appear to be.my first shark lived a whole 2 days in my tank it would take very little food when offered.we did however get lucky the sencond time around my LFS had one purchased for me from seaworld so it was all ready accustom to being hand fed by humans.I was captive bred.mine will be residing in a 300 reef.cant say all of my reef fish will be 100% safe but I have no fish that can injure him.but I will say he does dirty the tank very quickly.
 
mitzel

mitzel

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Originally Posted by unleashed
yes the snowflake is a member of the moray family and the green wolf eel is accually of the blenny phsudochromis family
Yea blenny . Iguess I should have taken a minute to look it up before I posted false information.
 
unleashed

unleashed

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ah dont feel bad I only knew because I had one before.I dont do much research unless I want it or have owned it and in this hobby its very easy to get confuzzled
 
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