Originally Posted by renogaw
some dogs bark. you will not stop it. shock collars are a good way to do negative reinforcement--the dog WILL learn that while that collar is on if they bark they may get shocked and will stop. but, once that collar is off theremight be nothing to prevent them from barking. the best way is simple training with positive reinforcement. make a command, a single word (quiet). say it the same way every time, no fluxuation in voice, tone, or loudness. if the dog doesnt stop barking, give a negative feed back, say with the shock or a choke collar. when the dog stops barking with the single QUIET command, give a biscuit or training treat and a LOT of praise/petting. they learn MUCH better from a mixture of positive and negative reinforcement and treats than just negative reinforcement alone.
i see where yer comin from but i don't believe in negative vs. positive reinforcement. i believe in just refinforcement. in other words, i don't care how healthy the outcome is because i don't have the time.
my dog barked for no reason throughout the ENTIRE night. and not constantly either. about 5 random barks each hour. so me, and all my neighbors, got to get woken up about 6 or 7 times in the night. not cool.
so i got the shock collar, it worked within a week, and could care less about any cruelty to the dog because the bigger picture is that:
1. i have to work in the morning
2. i don't work well on 2 hours sleep
3. neither do my neighbors
4. the rights of several homeowners supercedes that of a dog
5. shocks aren't life threatening. regardless if we deserved it, we've all been through physical pain before. it sucks but it's a part of life. move on.
