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azul1994

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Manny?? 40 homeruns 140 RBI? I dont think so. If i can remember last year he has 20 homeruns and 80 RBI. And for the red sox this year he had 20 homeruns again. Then goes to the worst division in baseball and does great. And actually the red sox have been a better team since manny has left. Although i will agree with you that Manny is a better hitter than Jason Bay. He is not a better all around player at this point in his career.
 

miaheatlvr

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Originally Posted by azul1994
http:///forum/post/2774269
Manny?? 40 homeruns 140 RBI? I dont think so. If i can remember last year he has 20 homeruns and 80 RBI. And for the red sox this year he had 20 homeruns again. Then goes to the worst division in baseball and does great. And actually the red sox have been a better team since manny has left. Although i will agree with you that Manny is a better hitter than Jason Bay. He is not a better all around player at this point in his career.
What are you taking about? Besides the injury plagued last season he has consistently batted over 300 with around 40hr's and 130-140 RBI'S with this season batting 337 and 37 hrs and 121 RBI'S. You cant tell me that JASON BAY is in the same category as Manny.. common now.
 

whitey

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Originally Posted by MiaHeatLvr
http:///forum/post/2774309
What are you taking about? Besides the injury plagued last season he has consistently batted over 300 with around 40hr's and 130-140 RBI'S with this season batting 337 and 37 hrs and 121 RBI'S. You cant tell me that JASON BAY is in the same category as Manny.. common now.

It's pointless to argue with a Boston fan. They are consistently the most ignorant, arrogant fans that exist.
99% of that town will say now that they'd prefer Jason Bay over Manny, and every single one of them knows deep down how ridiculous that sounds. There comes a point when they start to believe their own lies, and then there's no turning back.
If Ortiz and Beckett were to get shipped to the Royals for prospects next season, Boston fans would be saying the same thing they're saying about the Manny Jason Bay deal. They're just that clueless.
 
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azul1994

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Is Jason Bay a better baseball player than Manny? No. Would i prefer Jason Bay over Manny. Yes. Manny was a huge distraction to the whole team and they team stumbled for a month with all his drama. Since Manny's trade the team has been doing much better.
 

whitey

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Originally Posted by azul1994
http:///forum/post/2774710
Is Jason Bay a better baseball player than Manny? No. Would i prefer Jason Bay over Manny. Yes.
Manny was a huge distraction to the whole team and they team stumbled for a month with all his drama. Since Manny's trade the team has been doing much better.
You only say this because the Dodgers called no trade backs.
 

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by azul1994
http:///forum/post/2774710
Is Jason Bay a better baseball player than Manny? No. Would i prefer Jason Bay over Manny. Yes. Manny was a huge distraction to the whole team and they team stumbled for a month with all his drama. Since Manny's trade the team has been doing much better.
I'm sorry, but I don't buy a "the team stumbled because of manny" if your players don't have the fortitude to handle manny being manny, then I don't know what business they have on the diamond. Baseball is a team sport more so than any other sport. Except the pitcher no one person can totally win you the game. Or totally lose you the game.
 

kevin34

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you guys can possibly think that boston is a bad team. Ya they finished second to tampa bay but look at what tampa has done this season. Its incredible.
P.S. Anyone catch the White Sox vs Twins single game playoff??? Awesome game!
 

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Kevin34
http:///forum/post/2776949
you guys can possibly think that boston is a bad team. Ya they finished second to tampa bay but look at what tampa has done this season. Its incredible.
P.S. Anyone catch the White Sox vs Twins single game playoff??? Awesome game!
I'm simply saying that I don't think Manny was the reason they were losing midseason. Tampa Played well, I'm not knocking them (that much) but boston didn't distingush themselves that much. It Didn't have any competition for the wild card. The yanks where the closest. But in the AL you had 4 good teams, Tampa, the angels, boston and maybe the yanks. And the angels played in a division where the 2nd place team finished 79-83. I personally think the favorites going into the playoffs have to be the angels and tampa. Boston third and whoever won the central being the first out.
This years competition in baseball was abismal at best. Only the angels and tampa showed any semplence of consistancy as a team. And Boston had a strong second half, but in my opinion if they had the stones to win the WS again, they'd have won their division.
 

whitey

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2776979
I'm simply saying that I don't think Manny was the reason they were losing midseason. Tampa Played well, I'm not knocking them (that much) but boston didn't distingush themselves that much. It Didn't have any competition for the wild card. The yanks where the closest. But in the AL you had 4 good teams, Tampa, the angels, boston and maybe the yanks. And the angels played in a division where the 2nd place team finished 79-83. I personally think the favorites going into the playoffs have to be the angels and tampa. Boston third and whoever won the central being the first out.
This years competition in baseball was abismal at best. Only the angels and tampa showed any semplence of consistancy as a team. And Boston had a strong second half, but in my opinion if they had the stones to win the WS again, they'd have won their division.
I'm sorry, but this is a really dumb post.
You say you're not knocking Tampa Bay "that much." How can you knock them at all? The best turnaround in baseball history, one of the lowest payrolls ever, losing their best player to injury, and still winning one of the toughest divisions in baseball. What is there to knock at all?
In the AL you have 4 good teams? Are the Twins no good? The White Sox? Yet you include the Yankees as one of your top 4? Give me a break. What do you want, 8 teams with 90 wins? How many good teams are there in the NL if there's only 4 in the AL?
No one else in the league was consistent? I'm sorry, I'm pretty sure the Cubs played well all season. What's your idea of consistent? 162-0 or 0-162? Have you ever even watched baseball?
Abysmal competition huh? That's funny, I thought it took all 162 games to figure out who won the NL wild card, and 163 to figure out the AL Central champ. I'd say that's pretty good competition when you need an extra game to decide a division and when most of the other playoff teams weren't determined until the final week of the regular season.
The Red Sox played pretty consistent to win 95 games. I don't they won won 89, then lost 67, then won 6 more at the end. You don't think they had the stones to win the division so they can't win the WS?
Come on man, at least pretend like this isn't the first year you've had an interest in baseball.
Sorry for the flame, you just seem to type paragraphs of junk that really shows you don't know a whole lot about the game, but like to comment on it.
go cubs.
 

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Whitey
http:///forum/post/2777073
I'm sorry, but this is a really dumb post.
You say you're not knocking Tampa Bay "that much." How can you knock them at all? The best turnaround in baseball history, one of the lowest payrolls ever, losing their best player to injury, and still winning one of the toughest divisions in baseball. What is there to knock at all?
In the AL you have 4 good teams? Are the Twins no good? The White Sox? Yet you include the Yankees as one of your top 4? Give me a break. What do you want, 8 teams with 90 wins? How many good teams are there in the NL if there's only 4 in the AL?
No one else in the league was consistent? I'm sorry, I'm pretty sure the Cubs played well all season. What's your idea of consistent? 162-0 or 0-162? Have you ever even watched baseball?
Abysmal competition huh? That's funny, I thought it took all 162 games to figure out who won the NL wild card, and 163 to figure out the AL Central champ. I'd say that's pretty good competition when you need an extra game to decide a division and when most of the other playoff teams weren't determined until the final week of the regular season.
The Red Sox played pretty consistent to win 95 games. I don't they won won 89, then lost 67, then won 6 more at the end. You don't think they had the stones to win the division so they can't win the WS?
Come on man, at least pretend like this isn't the first year you've had an interest in baseball.
Sorry for the flame, you just seem to type paragraphs of junk that really shows you don't know a whole lot about the game, but like to comment on it.
go cubs.
I'll admit I'm much better at knowing what pitch is coming next than watching the results of every team.
First off I was discussing the AL. The cubs were pretty dang consistent all year. There is no debate about that at all.
The sox didn't play consistent baseball the first half of the year, they were what 10 games under on the road? They made up by having an awesome home record. They aren't bad. They do play in the most trumped up division in baseball. (the division deserves it)
Second I wasn't talking about competition the way you are talking competition. I was discussing the quality of play.
And the whole AL central sucked, I hate to agree with Steinbrenner Jr. But a team with 88 wins shouldn't be making it into the post season. Once again, I'd focus on their road records. These guys have been abysmal on the road. Good teams aren't bad on the road.
But I guess the biggest problem I have is that the baseball didn't interest me this season. And I'm an x's and o's baseball guy. And it just wasn't that good.
 
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azul1994

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I'm sorry, but I don't buy a "the team stumbled because of manny" if your players don't have the fortitude to handle manny being manny, then I don't know what business they have on the diamond. Baseball is a team sport more so than any other sport. Except the pitcher no one person can totally win you the game. Or totally lose you the game.
Wrong, Baseball actually is one of the sports that really isnt that much of a team sport when you think about it. When a pitcher isnt on his game he can blow the game. Say, in football, if one linemen messes up the whole play is gone.
 

whitey

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The Cubs are the most PATHETIC, DISGUSTING crap that has ever existed.
What a bunch of worthless losers.
I will NEVER be fooled again into believing that this piece of Garbage Team ever has a chance to win.
I hope their plane stays in LA and never comes back to this town.
Pure Garbage.
 

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Whitey
http:///forum/post/2781521
The Cubs are the most PATHETIC, DISGUSTING crap that has ever existed.
What a bunch of worthless losers.
I will NEVER be fooled again into believing that this piece of Garbage Team ever has a chance to win.
I hope their plane stays in LA and never comes back to this town.
Pure Garbage.
That will go down as a colossal failure. Talk about BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD baseball. I was really disappointed. I thought this would be the series of the playoffs in the NL. I wonder where the real cubs are instead of the body doubles that showed up for the playoffs. Unless the real cubs showed up and the body doubles played for the entire season...
 
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