Beth..Thread Idea
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scully
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I agree! (not that my opinion matters LOL)
All in one place would be great. But honestly, all the same questions probably will come up as every tank is different and knowing how best to treat each tank (what to move and when) will probably still come up.
Or maybe not. What the hell do I know?!?! LOL
WAIT I'VE GOT IT...it would be short and sweet. Here's the answer
GET A QT AND DO HYPO.
done...here's your thread
All in one place would be great. But honestly, all the same questions probably will come up as every tank is different and knowing how best to treat each tank (what to move and when) will probably still come up.
Or maybe not. What the hell do I know?!?! LOL
WAIT I'VE GOT IT...it would be short and sweet. Here's the answer
GET A QT AND DO HYPO.
done...here's your thread
Well, I have a rather detailed post on ICH in the FAQ Thread which tells hobbyists about the parasite and exactly how to treat it. I don't know that having 10 threads on ich could really add to the specific info I have already posted. I kinda want folks to just read that and do what I have posted.
But, I can be convinced....so tell me why you think it would be good?
But, I can be convinced....so tell me why you think it would be good?
scully
Member
Not that it really matters Beth, but I REALLY DID read that thead before I posted my couple threads about ich the other day.
Seriously, it's a lot to take in. And when you are at a point that you NEED to read it panic is usually a factor, which diminishes comprehension. For me at least I still didn't fully understand what, EXACTLY, I should do for my exact situation.
But then imma goof *wink*
Seriously, it's a lot to take in. And when you are at a point that you NEED to read it panic is usually a factor, which diminishes comprehension. For me at least I still didn't fully understand what, EXACTLY, I should do for my exact situation.
But then imma goof *wink*
Is there something I should add to it?
I realize that a lot of people read it and still ask the questions about ich. Many just want help about how to start the treatment of hypo "in their situation". I guess folks kinda have to think about how to handle the situation and connect the dots with the info in the FAQ, but all the info is in FAQ. You have ich, you need setup a QT unless you have a FO tank, then do the hyposalinity treatment.
Ick is usually not immediately fatal, nor is treating it going to have immediate results, so hobbyists do have time to digest all the info posted in the FAQ pertaining to ich.
If folks have questions beyond the FAQ, it would be a good idea to say that you have read it, and then ask your specific question.
I realize that a lot of people read it and still ask the questions about ich. Many just want help about how to start the treatment of hypo "in their situation". I guess folks kinda have to think about how to handle the situation and connect the dots with the info in the FAQ, but all the info is in FAQ. You have ich, you need setup a QT unless you have a FO tank, then do the hyposalinity treatment.
Ick is usually not immediately fatal, nor is treating it going to have immediate results, so hobbyists do have time to digest all the info posted in the FAQ pertaining to ich.
If folks have questions beyond the FAQ, it would be a good idea to say that you have read it, and then ask your specific question.
scully
Member
Originally Posted by Beth
Is there something I should add to it?
***paragraph removed for clarity***
Ick is usually not immediately fatal, nor is treating it going to have immediate results, so hobbyists do have time to digest all the info posted in the FAQ pertaining to ich.
Probably just that. Panic sets in I think. AFter reading the FAQ I did have a better understanding of how ich worked and kinda made the assumption that I had a couple days. But knowing that there is time probalby would have, at least, calmed my nerves enough so I could comprehend all the stuff I was trying to read up on.
The only other thing I had a problem with about the FAQ are the abbreviations. QT is picked up pretty quickly. But it took me forever to figure out that FO meant Fish Only. Sounds dumb but really if you don't use the term every day it kinda adds to the confusion.
Is there a list explaining those?? I coudln't find one.
Is there something I should add to it?
***paragraph removed for clarity***
Ick is usually not immediately fatal, nor is treating it going to have immediate results, so hobbyists do have time to digest all the info posted in the FAQ pertaining to ich.
Probably just that. Panic sets in I think. AFter reading the FAQ I did have a better understanding of how ich worked and kinda made the assumption that I had a couple days. But knowing that there is time probalby would have, at least, calmed my nerves enough so I could comprehend all the stuff I was trying to read up on.
The only other thing I had a problem with about the FAQ are the abbreviations. QT is picked up pretty quickly. But it took me forever to figure out that FO meant Fish Only. Sounds dumb but really if you don't use the term every day it kinda adds to the confusion.
Is there a list explaining those?? I coudln't find one.
scully
Member
Originally Posted by Beth
Do you still need help?
Not really. We lost the Hippo in transfer to the QT.
BUt I learned a lot!
You could answer a couple general questions though, if you want
If you can't (shouldn't) net your fish how do you get them out? Fish trap?
How do you ensure you get the right fish in the trap?
Do you still need help?
Not really. We lost the Hippo in transfer to the QT.
You could answer a couple general questions though, if you want
If you can't (shouldn't) net your fish how do you get them out? Fish trap?
How do you ensure you get the right fish in the trap?
Originally Posted by Scully
The only other thing I had a problem with about the FAQ are the abbreviations. QT is picked up pretty quickly. But it took me forever to figure out that FO meant Fish Only. Sounds dumb but really if you don't use the term every day it kinda adds to the confusion.
Is there a list explaining those?? I coudln't find one.
Yes there is. The acronyms are posted in the Archieves.
https://www.saltwaterfish.com/vb/showthread.php?t=42388
The only other thing I had a problem with about the FAQ are the abbreviations. QT is picked up pretty quickly. But it took me forever to figure out that FO meant Fish Only. Sounds dumb but really if you don't use the term every day it kinda adds to the confusion.
Is there a list explaining those?? I coudln't find one.
Yes there is. The acronyms are posted in the Archieves.
https://www.saltwaterfish.com/vb/showthread.php?t=42388
sw65galma
Active Member
Originally Posted by Beth
Well, I have a rather detailed post on ICH in the FAQ Thread which tells hobbyists about the parasite and exactly how to treat it. I don't know that having 10 threads on ich could really add to the specific info I have already posted. I kinda want folks to just read that and do what I have posted.
But, I can be convinced....so tell me why you think it would be good?
Basically it's like being at the supermarket...
You're looking through isle and all you see is general things on the signs above...
You have to look up and down the isle for your item...
This thread would be like an arrow hanging from the ceiling saying "BETH YOUR COFFEE IS RIGHT HERE 3rd shelf down"
People Panic and once they see the ICH sticky will jump right into it.
Instead of reading every marine disease and cures for each. I know I get anxious trying to plow through to much information and skipped over things myself..
A thread soley dedicated to ICH would entice poeple to read it carefully, knowing that all information in that thread would be pertaining to them...
How was that? :notsure:
Well, I have a rather detailed post on ICH in the FAQ Thread which tells hobbyists about the parasite and exactly how to treat it. I don't know that having 10 threads on ich could really add to the specific info I have already posted. I kinda want folks to just read that and do what I have posted.
But, I can be convinced....so tell me why you think it would be good?
Basically it's like being at the supermarket...
You're looking through isle and all you see is general things on the signs above...
You have to look up and down the isle for your item...
This thread would be like an arrow hanging from the ceiling saying "BETH YOUR COFFEE IS RIGHT HERE 3rd shelf down"
People Panic and once they see the ICH sticky will jump right into it.
Instead of reading every marine disease and cures for each. I know I get anxious trying to plow through to much information and skipped over things myself..
A thread soley dedicated to ICH would entice poeple to read it carefully, knowing that all information in that thread would be pertaining to them...
How was that? :notsure:
sw65galma
Active Member
Originally Posted by Beth
So you want me to add a third sticky to the top of this forum, add the ich post there and maybe some ich threads? Ich pics?
Exactly.
Like all the methods.
And anything to do with ICH
Subject matters:
Life Cycle
Preventing ICH, Setting up QT
Hospital tank, setting up
Hypo pros/cons
Copper Pros/Cons
Copper and Formulin
FW Dips pros/cons
Daily Water changes
Changes in Diet to help immune system
UV Lights pros/cons
Tons of pics.
So you want me to add a third sticky to the top of this forum, add the ich post there and maybe some ich threads? Ich pics?
Exactly.
Like all the methods.
And anything to do with ICH
Subject matters:
Life Cycle
Preventing ICH, Setting up QT
Hospital tank, setting up
Hypo pros/cons
Copper Pros/Cons
Copper and Formulin
FW Dips pros/cons
Daily Water changes
Changes in Diet to help immune system
UV Lights pros/cons
Tons of pics.
Originally Posted by sw65galma
Exactly.
Like all the methods.
And anything to do with ICH
Subject matters:
Life Cycle
Preventing ICH, Setting up QT
Hospital tank, setting up
Hypo pros/cons
Copper Pros/Cons
Copper and Formulin
FW Dips pros/cons
Daily Water changes
Changes in Diet to help immune system
UV Lights pros/cons
Tons of pics.
But I thought I did exactly that in FAQ? :thinking:
Exactly.
Like all the methods.
And anything to do with ICH
Subject matters:
Life Cycle
Preventing ICH, Setting up QT
Hospital tank, setting up
Hypo pros/cons
Copper Pros/Cons
Copper and Formulin
FW Dips pros/cons
Daily Water changes
Changes in Diet to help immune system
UV Lights pros/cons
Tons of pics.
But I thought I did exactly that in FAQ? :thinking:
S
sinner's girl
Guest
Maybe you did, but the thread's not labeled clearly to state that? A newcomer may not think that it's a FAQ? just a thought.
sw65galma
Active Member
Originally Posted by Beth
Its labled Common Treatments, Health in, FAQ....what else can I call it?
That's why i'm saying call it just ALL ICH FAQ!
Your thread is great, it's just info overload and many people stop reading or don't read it all as a lot of it doesn't pertain to them.
Its labled Common Treatments, Health in, FAQ....what else can I call it?
That's why i'm saying call it just ALL ICH FAQ!
Your thread is great, it's just info overload and many people stop reading or don't read it all as a lot of it doesn't pertain to them.
But that thread is not all about ICH. And I also intend to expand upon it in the future to include other diseases, as time allows.
I am trying to link some good topics in the Diseased Fish forum, so that hobbyists can follow an actual case of the disease from start to finish. Unfortunately, the upgrade of the BB ruined all the pictures which were in those theads making it kinda lame. However, I will keep an eye out for good topic coverage and will either place them here, or even archive them.
I am trying to link some good topics in the Diseased Fish forum, so that hobbyists can follow an actual case of the disease from start to finish. Unfortunately, the upgrade of the BB ruined all the pictures which were in those theads making it kinda lame. However, I will keep an eye out for good topic coverage and will either place them here, or even archive them.
scully
Member
If I could jump back in here...
As a newbie I read (most of) the FAQ thread when I had my ich incident. And it really was overwhelming. Even more overwhelming was taking what I had learned there and asking SPECIFIC questions on the board. Each question I asked got either led to another question or gave a vague (imo vague) answer.
Example: Should I put all my fish, even the non infected ones, into the QT?
Reply: Well I would wait but yes it's best.
:notsure: UGH! So what do I do???? hahaha ya see what I mean????
A simple (as simple as it can be) but exacting outline of what it is and what to do now all in one place would be easier, I think. Probably just be a lot of copy and pasting
As a newbie I read (most of) the FAQ thread when I had my ich incident. And it really was overwhelming. Even more overwhelming was taking what I had learned there and asking SPECIFIC questions on the board. Each question I asked got either led to another question or gave a vague (imo vague) answer.
Example: Should I put all my fish, even the non infected ones, into the QT?
Reply: Well I would wait but yes it's best.
:notsure: UGH! So what do I do???? hahaha ya see what I mean????
A simple (as simple as it can be) but exacting outline of what it is and what to do now all in one place would be easier, I think. Probably just be a lot of copy and pasting
hmmm. There are variables on "what to do" given the particular situation you are in and the way your tank is setup. That can not be addressed in an info thread. At that point, after reading the info and understand how ich works, the hobbyist needs to come back here and post up.
For instance:
There is no real "treatment" in an established reef tank. You either have to pull the fish out to treat in a QT or try out biological cleaners along with some heavy garlic feedings.
In a FOWLR that only has the LR, you could conceively, with little trouble, pull the LR and keep it going in an inexpensive rubbermaid with pumps running, then treat the fish with hyposalinity in tank, or you could pull the fish and treat them in a QT.
In a FO you can obviously treat the whole tank with ease in the tank.
And there are so many variable to the above. If the hobbyist can not connect the dots after reading the info-post, then they must come bact here to post up questions and request ideas. I really don't expect the info thread to answer everything, but after reading it, you should have a working understanding of how the parasite works, expell the myths and know what your treatment options are. The info thread is just that. But, maybe it is not as clear as it should be. Is that the case?
I really can't post up all the variable about what to do, because each tank is unique. If I provided a "what to do" then I'm sure a lot of people would do the wrong thing. The BB is not a book, afterall, the forums are here to exchange info and help each other out.
For instance:
There is no real "treatment" in an established reef tank. You either have to pull the fish out to treat in a QT or try out biological cleaners along with some heavy garlic feedings.
In a FOWLR that only has the LR, you could conceively, with little trouble, pull the LR and keep it going in an inexpensive rubbermaid with pumps running, then treat the fish with hyposalinity in tank, or you could pull the fish and treat them in a QT.
In a FO you can obviously treat the whole tank with ease in the tank.
And there are so many variable to the above. If the hobbyist can not connect the dots after reading the info-post, then they must come bact here to post up questions and request ideas. I really don't expect the info thread to answer everything, but after reading it, you should have a working understanding of how the parasite works, expell the myths and know what your treatment options are. The info thread is just that. But, maybe it is not as clear as it should be. Is that the case?
I really can't post up all the variable about what to do, because each tank is unique. If I provided a "what to do" then I'm sure a lot of people would do the wrong thing. The BB is not a book, afterall, the forums are here to exchange info and help each other out.
sw65galma
Active Member
Originally Posted by Beth
hmmm. There are variables on "what to do" given the particular situation you are in and the way your tank is setup. That can not be addressed in an info thread. At that point, after reading the info and understand how ich works, the hobbyist needs to come back here and post up.
For instance:
There is no real "treatment" in an established reef tank. You either have to pull the fish out to treat in a QT or try out biological cleaners along with some heavy garlic feedings.
In a FOWLR that only has the LR, you could conceively, with little trouble, pull the LR and keep it going in an inexpensive rubbermaid with pumps running, then treat the fish with hyposalinity in tank, or you could pull the fish and treat them in a QT.
In a FO you can obviously treat the whole tank with ease in the tank.
And there are so many variable to the above. If the hobbyist can not connect the dots after reading the info-post, then they must come bact here to post up questions and request ideas. I really don't expect the info thread to answer everything, but after reading it, you should have a working understanding of how the parasite works, expell the myths and know what your treatment options are. The info thread is just that. But, maybe it is not as clear as it should be. Is that the case?
I really can't post up all the variable about what to do, because each tank is unique. If I provided a "what to do" then I'm sure a lot of people would do the wrong thing. The BB is not a book, afterall, the forums are here to exchange info and help each other out.
Beth I think if you create a thread called ALL ABOUT ICH.
And keep your existing Thread call it ALL OTHER common diseases.
the ICH thread will be easy to create. As time goes on, anything not in there can be added.
Like specific Q&A Like above listed..
And everyone will benefeit... Trust me...worst case scenerio....we delete the thread.
hmmm. There are variables on "what to do" given the particular situation you are in and the way your tank is setup. That can not be addressed in an info thread. At that point, after reading the info and understand how ich works, the hobbyist needs to come back here and post up.
For instance:
There is no real "treatment" in an established reef tank. You either have to pull the fish out to treat in a QT or try out biological cleaners along with some heavy garlic feedings.
In a FOWLR that only has the LR, you could conceively, with little trouble, pull the LR and keep it going in an inexpensive rubbermaid with pumps running, then treat the fish with hyposalinity in tank, or you could pull the fish and treat them in a QT.
In a FO you can obviously treat the whole tank with ease in the tank.
And there are so many variable to the above. If the hobbyist can not connect the dots after reading the info-post, then they must come bact here to post up questions and request ideas. I really don't expect the info thread to answer everything, but after reading it, you should have a working understanding of how the parasite works, expell the myths and know what your treatment options are. The info thread is just that. But, maybe it is not as clear as it should be. Is that the case?
I really can't post up all the variable about what to do, because each tank is unique. If I provided a "what to do" then I'm sure a lot of people would do the wrong thing. The BB is not a book, afterall, the forums are here to exchange info and help each other out.
Beth I think if you create a thread called ALL ABOUT ICH.
And keep your existing Thread call it ALL OTHER common diseases.
the ICH thread will be easy to create. As time goes on, anything not in there can be added.
Like specific Q&A Like above listed..
And everyone will benefeit... Trust me...worst case scenerio....we delete the thread.