BIg tank is it a problem?

joshua g.

New Member
Like my thing says i have a 220 gallon theres is an underground gravel filter 2 protein skimmers and 1 seaclone i recentley got this tank as a gift from my mother i set it up and i went on a fish spree i have had the tank 1 year everything is perfect on it ph, amonia,saltlevel etc. after about 6 weeks of tank being perfect i started buying more expensive fish i have a black voiltian lionfish 4 perculla clowns a couple of angel anemomes and 2 striped sharks about 12 inchs each i bought all these fish when they were still babys they have grown up fine with each other but 1 of my two yellow tangs has been getting brown spots on its sides it there something wrong with filters maybe or are my other fish pickin on it what does ne body think?????: the thing that is really weird thought the spots go away when i turn the lights on they go away about 20mins after the lite is on
 

jacknjill

Active Member
maybe it has a disease of some sort. if i were you id post this in the disease forum and beth can probably help you out. also, i know this is a little off topic, but do you have a pic of the lion?
 

joshua g.

New Member
Im not quite shure about the size ....Probaly roughly around 9-11 inch wingspand not shure length he eats REALLLY big goldfish though the sharks only eat smaller feeders my lionfish is quite the snob!..lol
 

lion_crazz

Active Member
Yeah, the feeders will definitely wind up killing the lionfish. His liver is going to bloat because the feeders are WAYY too fatty for his liver to handle.
Undergravel filters are terrible, and really should not be used. However, if you do not have ammonia, nitrite, or nitrate readings, then I guess you are okay for now. I would be a little worried to stip up your gravel though because your nitrates are probably very trapped down there. How often are water changes/gravel cleaning done on your tank?
The spots thing sounds like it is just stressed from being in the dark. Most fish will become slightly discolored when in complete dark.
 

joshua g.

New Member
ok well i dont feed the lion feeders i feed it goldfish but my two sharks have been eating the feeders since i got them i put the feeders in front of the sharks and i drop the goldfish a lil bit in front of the lion..Write me back ne body else got any other reasons why my yellow tang turns dark with the lite off becuse my other tang doesnt???
 

joshua g.

New Member
all of our saltwater tanks in the house for like the last 15 yrs have had underground gravel filtersthey work fine we very rareley lose fish maybe 1 every 2-3 yrs
 

22caddy

Member
Stop feeding feeders now. By the way, goldfish are feeders. What would possess someone to feed freshwater to saltwater fish. They do not have the proper nutrition needed to keep a healthy fish. Search on here to find different recipes for feeding your sharks and lionfish. As far as the tang turning dark, I am not sure. Many fish turn a lighter color because of a protective coating for sleeping.
 

lion_crazz

Active Member
Goldfish are feeders. A feeder is any unnatural form of dietary supplement. Lionfish do not consume goldfish in the wild. Each goldfish you feed your lion contains 6.60 grams of lipids (fat). A lionfish's diet in the wild is that of saltwater fish and marine crustaceans. Saltwater fish have .97 grams of fat, and crustaceans have 1.62 grams of fat. Thus, even if all that lion ate was crustceans, you are still giving it 5 times the amount of fat than it would naturally eat. This is like you eating at McDonalds every single day. It's not good for you, and the feeders/goldfish are not good for the lionfish.
 

joshua g.

New Member
ok well at the petstore that i go to since we spent so much money there becus we have about 5k invested in the tank between the 250.00 dollar sharks the 50.00lionb fish the coral the sand lighting tank stand.etc.were to find the proper stuff to feed the lion fish becuse we have had tanks befores this one and we had old old lionfish that surrvived off of Goldfish so what else to do????
 

lion_crazz

Active Member
Goldfish is the worst thing you could be feeding the lionfish. Ideally, you should be feeding him frozen food like silversides and krill, but switching that lion to frozen will take a little longer because he is a bigger lion.
 

joshua g.

New Member
well i like showing him and the sharks off my throwing the feeders in the tank and the lion swallowing whole i think im gonna move my lion to the 90 gallon showtank in the front entry room of our house there is seahorses triggers and some other fish in that tank but all larger is safe to move the lion to the 90 gallon with the other semi smaller fish??/
 

lion_crazz

Active Member
No, no, no! There is no way you have seahorses and triggers in the same tank! Also, triggers cannot live with lions! Triggers will kill a lion (unless it is a niger or blue throat, then, you may have a chance of co-existence).
The feeders may be a great show to guests, but it is hurting the fish pretty badly in the long run. Which one means more? If showing off the fish means more, you should not be on this message board.
 

joshua g.

New Member
well i only put the couple seahorse in the 90gallon with the trigger fish about a week ago they seem"ok" but the trigger is a picasso ne chance of co-existance?????
 

joshua g.

New Member
They have been eating ok like ill grind up brine shrimp for them and like aliquid form and the eat "ok" that way or they have been?
 

lion_crazz

Active Member
Well, you do what you want, but I am just telling you that there is no way a seahorse can be kept properly and healthy for a long period in a tank with such an aggressive fish like a picasso trigger. I don't see the seahorse living longer than a few months.
 
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