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shista

shista

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ok here is what i wanted in my 44 gallon tank the red ones are the ones i dont have
yellow tang
GS maroon clown
yellow tailed damsel
copperband butterfly
some type of reefsafe wrasse or reffsafe puffer.
i im starting a reef tank i already have some polyps but want toa dd more softies give me advise, tell me if u no more colorful reef safe fish. all i want is a COLORFULL and VISIBLE fish! i dont want no small gobys and stuff.
 
birdy

birdy

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Not sure about a copperband in a 44 seems a little small to me, and be aware that some copperbands do nip at polyps and featherdusters. Espcially since you have a YT in there (most people will tell you the YT will outgrow the 44 rather quickly).
As far as a wrasse-
sixline, fairy wrasse, some of the flasher wrasses.
What about a royal gramma, nice sized colorful fish for your size tank.
 
shista

shista

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ok would this be good.
yellow tang
yellow tailed damsel(might get rid of if too many bioload)
GS maroon clown
royal gramma
pygmy angel
copperband butterfly i ahve a protien skimmer
 
viper_930

viper_930

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Skip the yellow tang and copperband and just go with the remaining four; those two need bigger tanks, it's not about the bioload.
 
shista

shista

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ok what about this
yellow tang
sixline wrasse
GS maroon clown
copperband butterfly
Royal gramma
 
ifusayso

ifusayso

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Originally Posted by shista
ok what about this
yellow tang
sixline wrasse
GS maroon clown
copperband butterfly
Royal gramma
What happened to that other tang you recently got from that lfs for that damsel? Did you trade it for something?
Agree with Viper, you got enough even without the tang.
Please stop trying to get people to tell you to add more fish, people have told you a lot that you are overdoing it. I'm not trying to be mean, but seriously enough fish.
 
shista

shista

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i fanaly just gave that fish back for no money. ok so u guys think i should take the copperband off the list?? i cant take the yellow tang off the list because my lfs dont trade it for enything.
 
mikeyjer

mikeyjer

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Originally Posted by shista
i fanaly just gave that fish back for no money. ok so u guys think i should take the copperband off the list?? i cant take the yellow tang off the list because my lfs dont trade it for enything.
We have told you to go to a different LFS. Copperband SHOULD be off the list. Yellow tang to me is fine for now if it's small, that's MY opinion!!! However it WILL outgrow your tank eventually, so have a plan to have it moved to a larger tank. You should look into green chromis and clowns, even fire fish. Decide the ones you want from that list. The bigger fish is out of the question for you! :happyfish
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by shista
all i want is a COLORFULL and VISIBLE fish! i dont want no small gobys and stuff.
Then get a bigger tank!
Large fish belong in large tanks. Small fish "gobies and stuff" belong in small tanks.
Sorry, I don't believe the LFS took back their mistake without giving you any credit. The fish died, did it not? How is your anemone doing?
Shista, you've been given an enormous amount of good advice from some very patient people. Pretty soon, however, you're going to become the kid who cried wolf.
You have to decide whether you are going to be a hindrance or an asset to this community and hobby.
You can't defy all the known laws of Biology, Physics, and chemistry and expect to succeed.
 
scubadoo

scubadoo

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Tangs are open water swimmers and DEMAND lots of swimming space. FOr a yellow a minimum of 6 feet is required as an adult.
The requirements for tangs are often misunderstoond by the hobbyist.
Unless your current systyem can house the tang to adulthood...you should return or move to an adequate system.
Plans to upgrade can change and the animal is left to suffer. I am unaware of any magical formula that can calculate the exact time to move a tang to a larger system BEFORE stress hits.
Once stress sets in it is often too late to move the animal to an adequate home.
Finding a suitable home is more important than a store credit.
JMO
 
ricks280

ricks280

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shista,
do you ever listen or read on what people that you ask for advise tell you?
the other day i was nearly fried by ophiura for not sticking to the topic!
and here you go again asking the same question.
i agree with journey man just get a bigger tank.
(rick)
 
shista

shista

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ok sorry fro everything. but i dont got enough money for a bigger tank!!! should i just go with this list??and yes my LFS took it with NO credit!
yellow tang
GS maroon clown
yellow tailed damsel(will get rid of if too much bioload)
sixline wrasse
Royal gramma
pigmy or coral buity angel
 
harndog

harndog

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Dude this is the most you should have.
yellow tang
GS maroon clown
yellow tailed damsel(will get rid of if too much bioload)
sixline wrasse
skip the angel and the royal gramma.
Get rid of the damsel (good luck catching him) add the gramma until then get a sixline and hope for the best. you would be better off to forget the fish and start working on your reef if thats what you want. I have a 75 reef and only have gsm yt damsel, a dom damsel, and a mandrian. My tank has been up for over a year. I don't know how old you are or if you have A.D.D. or what but you should read the response to your post and then read your response. We are not you momma kid you can't change years of experience.
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by Harndog
Dude this is the most you should have.
yellow tang
GS maroon clown
yellow tailed damsel(will get rid of if too much bioload)
sixline wrasse...
I don't know how old you are...
Profile says he was born in 1986.
I'd even change that list.
Tang needs a bigger tank, and a Maroon Clown gets big and can be one of the more aggressive Clowns.
Shista, please get a good book on fish, such as Michaels' "Marine Fishes.." This will help you SOOO much in understanding the relationships among different fish
 
yimmy

yimmy

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IMO thats to much of a bioload unless you have 2 enormous canisters on it but then your fish will be stressed because of swimming space. I think you need to find another LFS and trade in the yellow tang because they need big tanks. ALSO in this hobby it is hard to straddle then line between and FO tank and Reef. You want to have corals and also a lot of fishes in a small tank. I liked the fishes and did want to go reef because it would be cool to see them swim in their "natural habitat" but I was done because of the sticker shock. You need to stop adding fishes and get rid of them. Your fish list has the same size and amount of fishes as mine....do u wanna know the difference...my tank is going to be 2 times the size. This is mine in a FO tank. 2 clowns,long nose butterfly,yellow eyed tang,hawaiin white spotted puffer, and maybe an Eibli flame angel but I don't wanna overstock. I'm getting a canister, a UV, and a protein skimmer a month later. You need to cut your fish list in half. If you can try to sell some of the fishes and in turn save the money for a bigger tank or more filtration. You are blowing valuable money and please try to listen. YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE LAWS OF THE OCEAN. The best thing for your fishes is a small reef safe angel or something and a pair of clowns+your corals. I couldn't stand not having many fish but had to learn that more isn't better in turn of fishes. PLEASE LISTEN TO WHAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO TELL YOU
. People on this forum are knowlegable but can't be putting out all of your fires.
 
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