Black Ich

psusocr1

psusocr1

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well none of my fish have any signs of anythign except my unicorn tang. Its GOTTA be black ich.. i would say about 10 -12 or so black pencil tip dots on his body, never noticed them until today.
what can i do? i dont have a QT
can i dose the whole tank and treat the whole thign with with stop parasite? or kick ich? or do i have to buy yet aNOTHER tank to put thim in? to treat him?? also can i give him a freshwater dip? with Nitrofurazone based medication
Also he still eats liek a fatboy! thats all he does is eat and swim, he never stops, no signs of scratching or rubbing ata ll either.
i would psot a pic but you wont be able to see it i dont think although ill try to get one!!
AlsoMy water test liek this
ammonia-0
nitrate-0
nitrite-0
ph. 8.2
salinity 1.26
calcium 450
alk 1.5
temp 75.3
 
92protruck

92protruck

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I'm no expert but the recommended treatment for black ich is formalin bath. Check out the FAQ sticky ontop for info on how to do it. The problem for me is always making sure the diagnosis is right. I had a tang with black spots I thought it was black ich. It turned out is was regular ich and when the parasite fell off the skin it left a black spot which healed in a few days. It took me a while to actually see the white spots. if you are confident its black ich go for the formalin bath. No QT required.
 
psusocr1

psusocr1

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o.k so can i put him in the bath with 3 gallons of water and 60 drops of formalin?? 3-5 treat,ments? can i then put him back in the main tank??? wont this cause ALOT of stress? coul dblack ich be killed with treatments of stop parasite?im tryig to to stress him out at all,, as is aid hes eating awesome and very active??
BTW thanks for the response!!!!
 
mavgi

mavgi

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Originally Posted by psusocr1
o.k so can i put him in the bath with 3 gallons of water and 60 drops of formalin?? 3-5 treat,ments? can i then put him back in the main tank??? wont this cause ALOT of stress? coul dblack ich be killed with treatments of stop parasite?im tryig to to stress him out at all,, as is aid hes eating awesome and very active??
BTW thanks for the response!!!!

don't use stop parsite it's not work i test it waste of money. for black ich use formalin bath and if you have air pump put air stone with it in the bucket after you treat him put him in a fresh ro water to wash the fish and then turn him back to the tank. i think that you need to buy a 20 gallon QT for problem like that..... you have 300 gallon tank and to save problem and to give good treatment for your fish in case of any Diseases you should have QT
 
lion_crazz

lion_crazz

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Your alk is pretty low. That is measuring it in meq/l, right? Is your pH up and down?
I would probably do the Stop Parasite first. That is much less stressful and I have always had great success with the product. However, with your alk so low, that makes it a little dangerous to use because it would affect your pH.
 
psusocr1

psusocr1

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thanks lion.. i can boost my alk with some buffer i have...i think i might just go ahead and spend the 100+ dollars iw ill need on a gallon of stop parasite then..
i never have any fluctiotions in my p.h
 
lion_crazz

lion_crazz

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Well that's good to hear. It's only a matter of time if you were to leave the alk alone, though. Some dkH buffer should do the trick.
I usually work in terms of dkH, and with a 1.5 meq/l, your dkH would be about 4.5, whereas you need it to be between 8 and 11. You want your alk (meq/l) to be between 2.8 and 3.9.
That is a heck of a lot of money to drop on Stop Parasite. Is the fish still acting normal and eating as he normally would? Correcting the problem, as well as extra feedings with garlic and vitamins, would probably be my first thought of action while you are raising the alk.
 
psusocr1

psusocr1

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my unicorn east LIKE A PIG,, very bossy during feeding lets everyone know itys "his" food while everyone does get their fair share he still dictates that he east first and as much as he wants, he swims like crazy, never stops, still no rubbing or itching or anythign liek that. ive been monitoring him and all my fish closely, no signs of any other fish bieng affected at all,, everythign is normal as if nothign is going on, thats hwy im soo confused??
also at EVERY feeding i always use vitamins and garlic(alot) but nto too much , i put garlic in everythign from their flake food, to the formula 1 and 2, the mysis , squidd, krill silversides etc.
and i dont feed three times a day i feed about 5-7 times a day. ii usually feed three seperate times int he mornign all flake food every time with some pellet food, then in the afternoon they get their mysis and formula food only once then at night they get 2-3 more times flake food.. BASICALLY i feed whenever im around the tank and they ALWAYS eat until theirs nothign elft of it!
my stop parasite will be here in 3 days, yes it was ALOT of money due to the amount i needed, but i have a ton invested int his tank as im sure everyone knows how much money it costs ...
 
lion_crazz

lion_crazz

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Okay then, I wish you luck with the treatment. I am sure your fish will be fine from the sounds of it. Could you email me where you purchase it from? My email is Ry84@MSN.com.
 
psusocr1

psusocr1

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where i purchased the stop parasite from? or my fish?
the funny part is that i live 5 streets away from where chem-marine products are from. I called this guys house and he was liek sorry you have to buy it from the store i cant sell it to you directly?? made NO sense to me!
 
lion_crazz

lion_crazz

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Wow, that's very strange!
Yeah, I was talkin about the Stop Parasite. With my LFS closed for the time being, it is tough getting a lot of things locally.
 
psusocr1

psusocr1

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the auction site has it for a decent price as compared to anywhere else, i just got it from there in large quantity...for alot of the product everywhere else wanted $120-155 including my LFS which is also down the street from chem marine.. i paid a bit under 100 shipped
 
psusocr1

psusocr1

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o.k well the spots on my unicorn are GONE thankfully,, im still going to do a 5 day treatment of stp-parasite to ensure that the ich is dead, any opinions??
 
lion_crazz

lion_crazz

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Sounds good to me. I would do the 5 day to give him the extra strength just in case it is not fully gone yet.
 
hana

hana

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hello. i was told you had good luck treating black ick with STOP PARISITE. any info. you might have? need to treat my yellow tang. thanks.
 
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