blue hippo vs. damsel
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azul1994
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what type of damsel is it?
ophiura
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One of the reasons to QT is to allow a fish to become settled without such chasing.
I know people will be annoyed with me for this, but please do not "flush" a fish. You have a responsibility, regardless of how valuable a fish is, to find a new home, provide for it, or at the very least dispose of it in a more humane manner.
This may seem like an overreaction, but I can't stand the "flush it" comments for an animal that is doing nothing abnormal. That is what damsels do. And it is entirely possible it will stress out the tang.
Try turning the lights out and rearranging the rockwork for now.
Q T
One of the reasons to QT is to allow a fish to become settled without such chasing.
I know people will be annoyed with me for this, but please do not "flush" a fish. You have a responsibility, regardless of how valuable a fish is, to find a new home, provide for it, or at the very least dispose of it in a more humane manner.
This may seem like an overreaction, but I can't stand the "flush it" comments for an animal that is doing nothing abnormal. That is what damsels do. And it is entirely possible it will stress out the tang.
Try turning the lights out and rearranging the rockwork for now.
brandoncena
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yea flush that son of a bit*h lol my damsels just killed my tellow tang and they are now working on my corral beauty im getting rid of them
ophiura
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This is normal behavior for damsels, and why people often discourage keeping them.
Also, it is tempting to accuse animals of killing fish, far easier to do than considering it died for some other reason. But it is best to consider that the fish died for some reason before jumping to the "it was killed" line. It is important to look at the big picture so as not to miss something that may cause other fish to die.
I would encourage considering tank size, age, parameters etc...or more fish will die.
Also, it is tempting to accuse animals of killing fish, far easier to do than considering it died for some other reason. But it is best to consider that the fish died for some reason before jumping to the "it was killed" line. It is important to look at the big picture so as not to miss something that may cause other fish to die.
I would encourage considering tank size, age, parameters etc...or more fish will die.
our gang
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no fish have died yet. I'm just trying to prevent my blue hippo from dying. I have now caught the damsels and will take them to the lfs tomorrow. All I was saying is I would rather have the hippo than the damsels.
My tank is a 150 and it has been set up for over a year. I have lost one fish in that time and don't know what caused that. currently the amm-0, nitrates-0, ph-8.2 and nitrites are at 60. I don't plan on any fish dying, that is why I'll get rid of the damsels
My tank is a 150 and it has been set up for over a year. I have lost one fish in that time and don't know what caused that. currently the amm-0, nitrates-0, ph-8.2 and nitrites are at 60. I don't plan on any fish dying, that is why I'll get rid of the damsels
our gang
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DA#N, I didn't mean to start an arguement. I just wanted to know if it was better to pull the damsel out. I have been considering pulling them out for awhile now, Used them to start the cycle and they actually lived thru it. So I felt obligated to keep them until now. They were getting along with everybody until I put my pearlscale butterfly and blue hippo in today. thank you all for the input.
BTW, what's more humane than flushing? .......SUSHI?
BTW, what's more humane than flushing? .......SUSHI?
miaheatlvr
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Originally Posted by LAXplaya
DAMNsels suck!!!! i spent 40 dollars to get the damn thing out and i had to rearrange the rock!!! i threw mine in the toilet and to make sure it didnt survive i poured in some Hydrogen Peroxide...instant death.
I think that some of the methods of disposing of some of these damsels is diplorable. I mean flushing and then adding HYDROGEN PEROXIDE? Like Ophi said, for a teratorial fish that is just doing its normal behaviour and #2 Like Ophi said again, "How did it get in your tank in the first place?" Or was it a hitchhiker? lol This might also constitute as some sort of fish abuse and results in irresponsible hobbyists and the general overfishing of the coral reef, no matter how mundane you see it. my 2 cents
I think that some of the methods of disposing of some of these damsels is diplorable. I mean flushing and then adding HYDROGEN PEROXIDE? Like Ophi said, for a teratorial fish that is just doing its normal behaviour and #2 Like Ophi said again, "How did it get in your tank in the first place?" Or was it a hitchhiker? lol This might also constitute as some sort of fish abuse and results in irresponsible hobbyists and the general overfishing of the coral reef, no matter how mundane you see it. my 2 cents
rbaldino
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Originally Posted by ophiura
Gee, I just don't know how they got in your tank to begin with
So true.
There's enough information out there about damsels for people to make intelligent decisions about getting them. If you're worried about the potential consequences, don't get one to begin with. If you want one, be smart about when you get them and what you keep them with. And flushing is never an acceptable solution. I wonder how these people would feel if someone flushed them? There are certainly people out there who deserve it...
Gee, I just don't know how they got in your tank to begin with
So true.
There's enough information out there about damsels for people to make intelligent decisions about getting them. If you're worried about the potential consequences, don't get one to begin with. If you want one, be smart about when you get them and what you keep them with. And flushing is never an acceptable solution. I wonder how these people would feel if someone flushed them? There are certainly people out there who deserve it...
ophiura
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I am just tired of the complaints about damsels when people PUT them in the tank to begin with...just take a bit of responsibility here, that's all.
Catch them and trade them in, no big deal, but otherwise I have little sympathy for the problem and even less for the flushing solution. It isn't shocking. Heck, damsels attack SCUBA divers in the wild (and it can hurt!)
So yes, if they are nippy and you are concerned, trade them back to the LFS - find another tank, or put them in a refugium.
Catch them and trade them in, no big deal, but otherwise I have little sympathy for the problem and even less for the flushing solution. It isn't shocking. Heck, damsels attack SCUBA divers in the wild (and it can hurt!)
So yes, if they are nippy and you are concerned, trade them back to the LFS - find another tank, or put them in a refugium.
miaheatlvr
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Except for my green chromis, he is such a nice little fish with alot of personality, very innocuous. Cant immagine him hurting a fly BUT maybe a copepod! lol
rbaldino
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Originally Posted by MiaHeatLvr
Except for my green chromis, he is such a nice little fish with alot of personality, very innocuous. Cant immagine him hurting a fly BUT maybe a copepod! lol
I have a green chromis as well and love him, though he is capable of being a bully, even to something as "evil" as a yellowtail damsel. Truth is, there are a lot of fish capable of taking over a tank and bullying new arrivals.
Except for my green chromis, he is such a nice little fish with alot of personality, very innocuous. Cant immagine him hurting a fly BUT maybe a copepod! lol
I have a green chromis as well and love him, though he is capable of being a bully, even to something as "evil" as a yellowtail damsel. Truth is, there are a lot of fish capable of taking over a tank and bullying new arrivals.
laxplaya
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Originally Posted by MiaHeatLvr
I think that some of the methods of disposing of some of these damsels is diplorable. I mean flushing and then adding HYDROGEN PEROXIDE? Like Ophi said, for a teratorial fish that is just doing its normal behaviour and #2 Like Ophi said again, "How did it get in your tank in the first place?" Or was it a hitchhiker? lol This might also constitute as some sort of fish abuse and results in irresponsible hobbyists and the general overfishing of the coral reef, no matter how mundane you see it. my 2 cents
it was only the last of the 6 suckers i did this to. The first 5 went right into the trap but this last one i had to buy hooks bait and on and on until i finally took out the rock and netted him. The first 5 were returned to the LFS.
I think that some of the methods of disposing of some of these damsels is diplorable. I mean flushing and then adding HYDROGEN PEROXIDE? Like Ophi said, for a teratorial fish that is just doing its normal behaviour and #2 Like Ophi said again, "How did it get in your tank in the first place?" Or was it a hitchhiker? lol This might also constitute as some sort of fish abuse and results in irresponsible hobbyists and the general overfishing of the coral reef, no matter how mundane you see it. my 2 cents
it was only the last of the 6 suckers i did this to. The first 5 went right into the trap but this last one i had to buy hooks bait and on and on until i finally took out the rock and netted him. The first 5 were returned to the LFS.
