Blue Jaw/Throat Trig Help

sman

sman

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Ive had my female blue jaw in my 90g reef for over three months now, and she has always been the most personable/least shy fish I have ever owned, until last tuesday. Im not sure what the deal is, she hides all the time(impossible to get a picture of) and wont come out to eat. She used to push other fish out of the way for food, but now she shows no intrest what so ever and wont come out of her cave for ANYTHING.
I was feeding the corals last night and there is a leather right by her cave and I had to pick it up to feed it, when I did I got a fairly good look at her, shes not her usual blue/silver color, she looked more blue/green, and looked a little bigger almost bloated around the jaw/throat area. Anyone have any Ideas? Shes not old enough to have much color on her yet, do they start to "change" like angels do? Or do they gradually grow into their color? Do they usually have a weird behavior when this happens?
I reallllllly like this fish and don't ever want anything to happen to her, what should I do?
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

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Have you checked your water readings? Have you added any new equipment or stock recently? When you looked at her did you notice any bite marks? What was she eating before? How long has it been since she ate? Are any other fish bullying her? The paleness and shyness sounds like stress of some sort. We have to figure out what that stress is.
 
R

rcreations

Guest
My Niger Trigger did the same thing when I moved him to the 150. He'd hide in the rocks for days at a time. Eventually he came out and went back to being a bully, normal for this fish. So I agree, I think it's stress related. Just have to figure out where the stress is coming from.
 
sman

sman

Member
NOBODY bullies this fish, she is the bully haha, no bite marks that I seen. She eats forzen and pellet formula 1 and 2 foods along with misys (anything frozen is soaked in zoe, selcon, and kent garlic extreme each feeding). I havent added anything equipent or fish or corals since I added her, months ago.
She is in a quite a stable reef parameters wise, but ill go run some tests, and post the results in a second..
 
sman

sman

Member
amm - 0
trites - 0
trates - 0
ph - was 7.9 but added the weekly ammount of buffer to bring 'er back around to 8.3
temp - a rock solid 78
i didnt figure anything else was pertanent, let me know if you think it is and ill run anything nessisary.
 
sman

sman

Member
Its been atleast 5 days now, but she doesnt really look thin at all. Like i said, kinda almost bloated or swolen in the lower jaw/throat area.
 
-tara33-

-tara33-

Member
well a fish vet can use a needle, but i have wormed a fish with swim bladder that had it for a week and that fixed it for some reason but otherwise im not sure of a proper way
 
-tara33-

-tara33-

Member
lika as in worming a dog or wormed a dog of heartworm exept in fish you dose the tank for a periood of time because they do have worms like dogs and cats exept different lol well they dont all have worms but some fish do like leopard wrasses always do, but anyway worming it flushes and pushes everthing out ppl do it with freshwater fish all the time and i tried it on a coral beauty angel and it worked but i have tried it on other fish but they died wile doing it, but i dont know if there is a better way to get rid of swim bladder if it is that im not sure
 
R

rcreations

Guest
Sorry for your loss. I wonder what happened to her? Triggers are some of the hardiest fish.
 
sman

sman

Member
Originally Posted by RCreations
http:///forum/post/2822891
Sorry for your loss. I wonder what happened to her? Triggers are some of the hardiest fish.
Thanks guys. This was always my understanding also, and since she was a blue jaw she was one of the only ones I could have.
 
jaymz

jaymz

Member
Sorry I just saw this but for future reference. The bloating could of come from being too aggressive during feeding and taking in alot of air when picking food from the surface. Usually this will go away but I know this can be deadly to angels and clownfish.
 
ca161406

ca161406

Member
sry that really stinks

i know when my puffers get bloated i let them swim into my hand then i gently squeeze their bellies then they fart or burp it out. but they have to be comfortable with swimming in your hand first though
 
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