boiling water?

fishieness

Active Member
Boiling water will do nothing. Water has a lower boiling point, and therefore, a lower evaporation point as many harmful things such as metals. The only thing you will do it take out pure water and leave in the metals, makeing your water ever more toxic. Boiling water is only used to kill parasites.
distilling water, however, would be a very good thing but will take a long time.
I would recomend getting a D/I filter. I got one made by aquarium pharacuticals online for only 20 bucks! not on an auction site either!
 

celacanthr

Active Member
well thanx scott for the compliment
:jumping:
i knew it was going to take a long time but i thought it was his only choice
 

sly

Active Member
Boiling water will kill bacteria and remove chlorine. It will not remove minerals but will actually concentrate them. Minerals such as silicates will build up in your tank and will cause both algae problems and problems maintaining alkalinity or calcium.
Distilled water is basically pure water. Simple H20. It is created by boiling the water and using a still to collect the steam that evaporates and condensing it back into liquid water. Minerals and impurities are left behind.
DI water is De-Ionized. This water has passed through a chemical media where most of the minerals and impurities are removed. This is different from just regular filtering... When minerals such as calcium disolve in water, they break apart and bond with the water molecule. Water molecules are ionic in that one side is negatively charged while the other is positive. When a mineral breaks apart in water, it will develop a charge and will electrically "stick" to a water molecule. This is ionic bonding. When you pass this water through a regular carbon filter (and even a Reverse Osmosis unit) these ionic bonds are not broken because the minerals have actually become part of the water itself. It's not like you have minerals floating in the water that can be filtered out. You have to ionically seperate them... This is what a DI filter does. It has a chemical media that will break apart the ionic bonds in the water by causing the minerals to ionically bond to the media rather than the water. The water that passes out is then very pure with no ionically bonded contaminates. Often if you take a pH reading on DI water you will get fluctuating readings. This is because water has a natural tendency to ionically bond with things. If there are no minerals for it to bond with, it will start to bond with itself. This will free up some hydrogen ions which is where pH comes from. With extra hydrogen ions charging the water, DI water will show up as an acid on most pH tests. But this is just temporary. Once you mix in your salt, the hydrogen bonds will break up and the pH will go back to normal. DI water is actually pH neutral (7.0) even though some tests will show it as an acid.
Distilled water is technically perfect water. It is the best to use in terms of purity but it is expensive. The second best is RO water (for filtering) and DI water (for breaking of ionically bonded impurities that normal filtering can not remove). There are several RO/DI units out there that can produce water that is as clean as distilled water but for much less money.
 

sly

Active Member
If you can afford it, buy a carbon filter and couple it to a DI filter. This will be a litlle expensive at first but will be much cheaper in the long run than buying distilled water all the time. Of course, you should get a RO unit as soon as you can afford it. You really can't beat RO/DI water for the cost and the purity (unless you want to buy distilled water all the time). I don't have a RO unit either...
 

380reef

Member
Thanks alot of all the responsis.
D/I filter?? Will that do the same thing as RO water? Is tehre any kinda hang on filter I can use to get rid of algea? Like an RO unit that attaches to teh fish tank???
Thanks
380reef
 

sly

Active Member
Phosphates can cause algae also. If you have an algae problem, you could try using some phosphate remove pads. This could help... I don't know of any hang on filter that removes algae specifically. I use an ultra violet sterilizer. This will kill any water borne algae that passes through it. I also use ozone fed to my skimmer. Ozone will increase the disolved oxygen levels of your tank and make it harder for algae to grow. It does this by increasing the water's "red-ox" potential... (different topic)
If you want to control algae, it is best to set up your tank properly first and do proper maintenance. Make sure that you have enough filtration. Make sure that you keep it clean and changed regularly. Don't overfeed your fish... Don't overstock... Don't let your lights get too old... Even if the bulbs look good, most will not last longer than a year without having the spectrum shift, causing algae. Put in lots of living rock, use a skimmer. I find it good to also use a trickle filter (wet/dry) and a refugium with macro algae such as mangroves... Set up your tank right first, then you can use other things like phosphate removers and activated carbon to "fine tune" the water.
DI water is not the same as RO water. RO water is water that has passed through a fine membrane. This leaves most of the impurities behind. It is a very good method of filtering. But RO systems can not remove ALL of the dissolved minerals. Some of them are ionically bonded to the water molecules and the only way to remove them is to pass the water through a DI filter after it has been run through a RO filter.
If you could only pick one or the other, it would be best to get a RO filter until you could add a DI filter to it. DI filters will remove the ionically bonded minerals from the water but don't do as good of a job at removing other impurities like simple dirt... That's what RO filters are good at...
But like I said, there are many RO units that have a built in DI filter... That would be the best option.
 

bkc978

Member
To concur with everyone above - boiling water will do nothing for you.
Most basic difference between distilled and RO - RO is obtained by means of filtering out all the bad stuff - leavoing just water in the ideal situation. Distilled is obtained by collecting steam and condesning it back to liquid water (like with a bundt pan - what a cool idea BTW- but a lof of work) - also resulting in pure water in ideal conditions.
Cheapest way to get great water for your fish tank without buying an RO unit- aquarium pharmacueticals makes a cheap and easy to sue DI filter that hooks up to any faucet and returns great water, and the best part is it is cheap, and it tells you when it needs to be replaced.
http://aquariumpharm.com/aqfilter.html
 

celacanthr

Active Member
Anytime 380
i forgot but you should put ice on top of the bowl (in a bag of course
) this will cause the steam to condense into water on the bowl. Just remember to replace the ice when the water gets to warm for there to be a difference in temp from the bowl and the ice/water.
 
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