Bubble Wand / Bubble Curtain
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neptunes ghost
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I've always heard that bubbles are bad in SW, they can irritate the gills and cause other problems for the fish.
monalisa
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Originally Posted by Rykna
Has anyone used these in a salt water tank? I was thinking of putting one in the horse tank since Valiant likes to play in the bubbles of the return flow. But I wanted to make sure that they were usuable for saltwater. :notsure:
I'm glad you posted this question, because the same thought has crossed my mind for my sh tank...I'll be watching responses here as well.
Lisa :happyfish
Has anyone used these in a salt water tank? I was thinking of putting one in the horse tank since Valiant likes to play in the bubbles of the return flow. But I wanted to make sure that they were usuable for saltwater. :notsure:
I'm glad you posted this question, because the same thought has crossed my mind for my sh tank...I'll be watching responses here as well.
Lisa :happyfish
reefreak29
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Originally Posted by Rykna
Has anyone used these in a salt water tank? I was thinking of putting one in the horse tank since Valiant likes to play in the bubbles of the return flow. But I wanted to make sure that they were usuable for saltwater. :notsure:
aabsolutly not , seahorses are suseptible to getting bubbles stuck in there pouch
Has anyone used these in a salt water tank? I was thinking of putting one in the horse tank since Valiant likes to play in the bubbles of the return flow. But I wanted to make sure that they were usuable for saltwater. :notsure:
aabsolutly not , seahorses are suseptible to getting bubbles stuck in there pouch
lion_crazz
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Originally Posted by reefreak29
aabsolutly not , seahorses are suseptible to getting bubbles stuck in there pouch
Yep, I would agree, bubblers are more detrimental than beneficial.
aabsolutly not , seahorses are suseptible to getting bubbles stuck in there pouch
Yep, I would agree, bubblers are more detrimental than beneficial.
poniegirl
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This was my smaller horse, Fin doing what she loved to do. I know, I know. But I liked the bar across the bottom, back because it gave a dimension to waterflow that I couldn't get any other way..lifted the gradoo up and cycled it up and over the rock. In a 55, it was a help. I only ran it for about 1/2 hour a day, not every day.
But this darn little girl wouldn't stay out of it. She lived quite a long life, but again, a girl.
JME, wouldn't do it with a male in the tank, though I don't think.
But this darn little girl wouldn't stay out of it. She lived quite a long life, but again, a girl.
JME, wouldn't do it with a male in the tank, though I don't think.
ophiura
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I would question whether they "love" the bubbles, or something else about the current.
IMO, be careful about projecting human emotions...this can lead to wrong assumptions and decisions. But I would definitely never put one of these in a seahorse tank, personally.
If you want to provide something for the seahorses, put in a variety of "hitching posts" whether coral skeleton, plants (even artificial), etc. I think that would be a less risky choice.
IMO, be careful about projecting human emotions...this can lead to wrong assumptions and decisions. But I would definitely never put one of these in a seahorse tank, personally.
If you want to provide something for the seahorses, put in a variety of "hitching posts" whether coral skeleton, plants (even artificial), etc. I think that would be a less risky choice.
autofreak44
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i took my bubble stone out of my tank after i read about microbubbles being bad for your fish, becasue my 35x turnover in my tank swished the bubbles all over in my tank, but only if you look close.
poniegirl
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When I have an animal for 4 years, I, for one, do tend to attach "human" emotions to them. I might venture that if the animal were only a resident for a short time, that wouldn't happen as easily?
Truly, I was not pleased with the seahorse's obsession with the bubbles, but it was a fact that she chose to "ride" the current that the bubble bar caused. The larger horse did not have the same habit.
Rykna, I don't know that females have a longer life span. I do know that they have at least one less possible ailment than the males..
Truly, I was not pleased with the seahorse's obsession with the bubbles, but it was a fact that she chose to "ride" the current that the bubble bar caused. The larger horse did not have the same habit.
Rykna, I don't know that females have a longer life span. I do know that they have at least one less possible ailment than the males..
ophiura
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All I am saying is that this can cause you to miss problems. There have been many people who love to see their tangs "pace" a tank because they are so "excited" to see them, when in fact they are probably just to big for that tank. Was this seahorse interested in the bubbles, or in the different current in that area?
Sorry, just my opinion on it...
Just hope people keep an open mind as to what may actually be a problem.
Sorry, just my opinion on it...
poniegirl
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Originally Posted by ophiura
All I am saying is that this can cause you to miss problems. There have been many people who love to see their tangs "pace" a tank because they are so "excited" to see them, when in fact they are probably just to big for that tank. Was this seahorse interested in the bubbles, or in the different current in that area?
I understand your meaning. No worries. And I agree, it was not the bubbles themselves attracting the seahorse, but the current. Which seems bizarre for a seahorse, but there it is.
The seahorse, often, would swim into the bubble current and let it push her. Not the entire time and not every time I turned it on, but often enough that it was obviously not accidental. She would repeat the excercise (for lack of a better word) with what seemed like obvious intent. She had to swim back up to repeat this and did. There didn't seem to be any benefit to her, except a faster transport to the front bottom of the tank. The bubbles were not ever on around feeding times, because I did worry about an accidentally snicked bubble, and the current created was too much for peaceful feeding.
It was a tool for my part and one I would not have used if it seemed detrimental to them. Though on occassion I would unplug the bar after a very short time because of her activity.
A side note..years ago (almost 20 years ago) I had tangs in a 150 gallon that did the "racetrack" thing. I agree with your view on that and feel that even that size tank is too small for some tangs. 1 Nasso and 1 hippo; my ex-husband thought they were impressive to watch, it made me ill. Beautiful fish, but I traded those two for that very reason. Traded them for my first seahorse!
He still has the tank, which sits empty.
All I am saying is that this can cause you to miss problems. There have been many people who love to see their tangs "pace" a tank because they are so "excited" to see them, when in fact they are probably just to big for that tank. Was this seahorse interested in the bubbles, or in the different current in that area?
I understand your meaning. No worries. And I agree, it was not the bubbles themselves attracting the seahorse, but the current. Which seems bizarre for a seahorse, but there it is.
The seahorse, often, would swim into the bubble current and let it push her. Not the entire time and not every time I turned it on, but often enough that it was obviously not accidental. She would repeat the excercise (for lack of a better word) with what seemed like obvious intent. She had to swim back up to repeat this and did. There didn't seem to be any benefit to her, except a faster transport to the front bottom of the tank. The bubbles were not ever on around feeding times, because I did worry about an accidentally snicked bubble, and the current created was too much for peaceful feeding.
It was a tool for my part and one I would not have used if it seemed detrimental to them. Though on occassion I would unplug the bar after a very short time because of her activity.
A side note..years ago (almost 20 years ago) I had tangs in a 150 gallon that did the "racetrack" thing. I agree with your view on that and feel that even that size tank is too small for some tangs. 1 Nasso and 1 hippo; my ex-husband thought they were impressive to watch, it made me ill. Beautiful fish, but I traded those two for that very reason. Traded them for my first seahorse!
He still has the tank, which sits empty.
reefkprz
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I would like to mention a big draw back of bubbles in any marine tank not just horse tanks is, think of how your protien skimmer works, protiens attach to the outside of bubbles thebn get collected. all the bubble are doing in a marine tank if pulling protiens up to the surface and depositing them there reducing the air exchange rate due to surface tension increase, basicly smothering the tank.
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tiberius
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I would think the reason the seahorse likes the bubbles is the extra buoyancy. They probably like the way the bubbles feel all over them. It is their jacuzzi! I have had a bubble wand in my 110 for many years. I always liked how it came up between a bunch of rocks. I have had fish depart from me but it wasn't from the bubbles.
reefforbrains
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I have read the same as everyone else and been playing in salt for a quite some time now. I am careful when I say this, but I really dont think its all that risky to have bubbles.
I hear horror stories and many that quote ancient passages from old books and surley someone can argue any side of an argument nowadays, I just think its become urban legend and grossly exaggerated in the frequentcy.
I hear horror stories and many that quote ancient passages from old books and surley someone can argue any side of an argument nowadays, I just think its become urban legend and grossly exaggerated in the frequentcy.
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tiberius
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Maybe a new thread needs to be started asking "Who's got bubbles in their tank!" I hate to think I was the only one.