buildin my piece of the reef

lovinmynemo

Member
I have recently set up a 55 gallon corner tank and could use some help.Ill explain what ive got and if anyone could help I would greatly appreciate it.
1. 55 gallon corner tank with 5 gallon sump with bio balls
2. protein skimmer
3.light with 2 32 watt power compacts and a 175 watt metal halide
4.40 lbs live rock
5. 2 bags of live sand
6. 2 clown fish
7.1 diamond goby
8.20 blue hermit crabs
9.15 turbo snails
10.a few assorted corals
this was all recommended by my local fish store but they rarely have tie for questionsso here they are
1. how often should I do water changes and how much
2.should i be adding anything besides calcium
3.and anything else you can offer to make this work better
 

loopy101

Member
what kind of power heads do you have in the tank?
i would consider replaying the bio balls with live rock rubble.
water changes are a personal opion some do it weekly, or bi weekly, monthly.
myself i do small water changes once or twice a week.
as far as dosing. there isnt any need to dose anything with regular water changes. you may not even need to dose any calcium. just remember dont dose anything you dont test for first!!!!!
 

lovinmynemo

Member
Originally Posted by Bulldog123
http:///forum/post/3103553
What do you mean by recent. And some more info about your tank and equipment and test results will help.
tank is 6 weeks now,
the test resultsare
1 nitrate 10
2 nitrite 0
3 alkalinity 2.5
4ph 8.3
5 salinity 1.026
6 calcium 375
as for equip what do you need to know?
 

bulldog123

Member
Did they walk you though the cycle process? That is alot of stuff for such a new tank. Hope it works out. I have a 54g corner myself. Your lights are good all though you may have a heat problem. Canopy or glass top? 10% weekly water changes. Bring your salinity down to 1.025. You dont need to dose anything your water changes are plenty for now. And you need ph, a least 20X over.
 

lovinmynemo

Member
glass top, no heater,im trying this by myself ,until i found this site,these guys around here seem to give you the run around all they look for is the quick sell
 

bulldog123

Member
Thats most of them. Your not as bad off as alot of us started(equipment wise). You most diffinitely could of waited on the corals and fish. On rock most people recommend 1.5 / 2 pounds per gallon. Im sure their rock is cured but even so if you decide to add more you may end up with a miny cycle. I would build a canopy or have your lights hanging if they are not already. You do need a heater to keep the tank temp from fluctuating during the cooler nights. A good read would be the tip for new hobbyists at the top of this thread. There is alot of great info and correct info. Always take these boards a opinions not alway facts. And post where you live someone here maybe around you.
Overall your looking pretty good on equipment.
 

lovinmynemo

Member
thanks for takin the time to help im in southern indiana so if anyone is near and could offer some help its greatly appreciated
 

bulldog123

Member
Originally Posted by lovinmynemo
http:///forum/post/3103579
thanks for takin the time to help im in southern indiana so if anyone is near and could offer some help its greatly appreciated
Post it on your profile. There are alot more people on here with more experience earlier in the evenings.
 
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vince-1961

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Let's talk water flow, a/k/a "turnover." The general idea is to turn the volume of water in your tank over 10 to 20 times per hour. Since you have a 55 gallon tank, that's 550 to 1,100 gallons per hour (GPH). I doubt the pump on your sump is doing enough, so let's measure it. Instead of counting feet of head, identifying your pump and finding a chart for your pump on the internet, just collect one gallon of water as it drains from your display tank to your sump. If it takes 1 minute, you got 1 gallon per minute or 60 gallons per hour. If 10 seconds, then 6 gpm or 360 gph.
Let's assume your sump pump ain't cuttin' it. There are four solutions: 1) add a fan, 2) add a closed loop, 3) replace the pump with a stronger one, or 4) reduce the number of turns in the pipes. Forget #3 and #4.
#1 is easiest because there are a kajillion fans on the market. Just buy one and mount it inside the tank. It'll move water around at a rate of so and so many gallons per hour. There are oscillating fans, wavemaking fans, and choices out the wazoo. I like the Koralia series, but shop around and pick whatever tickles your fancy.
#2 is the hardest. A "closed loop" is a loop of pipes with no opening to air. You buy an external pump and a bunch of PVC or flexible tubing. You rig it so water is sucked out of the tank underneath the surface and pumped right back into the tank under the surface. No bubbles. It creates water flow. You can get very elaborate with alternating currents, SCWDs, wavemakers, etc. Some folks don't bother with a sump at all, using only a closed loop. I use both. See my thread "Plumbing redesign blog" for detailed photos and explanations for how I made mine without drilling any new holes in my tank.
Also, look for dead spots where there is no water current. With any good luck, you'll be able to find it as the place that is consistently dirtier than the rest of the tank. If you find one, move a rock, aim a fan at it or whatever.
Have fun and Let's see some photos. (Be sure to resize them to 550 by 440 pixels.)
PS- Find a convenient schedule by which to do water changes and stick to it. I do 10% changes every week. By that I mean I discard 10% of the total water volume and replace it. Your system has 60 gallons, so that's only 6 gallons. (I do 25-30 gallons per week.) If you used tap water and got a diatom bloom, then buy an RO filter. The salt you buy to make your saltwater is scientifically diddled to make sure that your regular water changes add all the stuff you need to have in your water. You need not add anything else whatsoever until you've been at this for a lot longer. After another 6 weeks, things will start to settle down and then you can start fiddling.
 

king_neptune

Active Member
Originally Posted by lovinmynemo
http:///forum/post/3103565
glass top, no heater,im trying this by myself ,until i found this site,these guys around here seem to give you the run around all they look for is the quick sell
get a heater. 2 of them at roughly 3-4w per gallon. so you would need a pair of 150-200w heaters.
These are tropical animals, so keep it as close to that as possible. upper 70's low 80's. I dont understand how they have sold you equipment without something as basic as a heater.
BTW you chose some pretty nice equipment, so your actually off ot a god start.
has anything died yet from lack of heater?
 

lovinmynemo

Member
no nothing has died yet water temp stays 79 to 80 around the clock {bought a digital thermometer that records temp on hourly intervals}But I am interested in a custom built sump anyone know where to get one made just not enough room under this cabinet,and by the way the tank pump is a 750 gph skimmer pump is a500gph ,still workin on the pics/ thanks for all the help guys it is appreciated
 
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vince-1961

Guest
The "best" sump is always the one you make yourself. Find an aquarium that fits your available space. Get the biggest one you can. Then design the sump you want and create it. You create it by cutting 1/4" plexiglass to your designs parameters, then apply aquarium grade silicon (buy the large tube and use a caulk gun) to both sides of the plexiglass where it touches the glass. Then let it dry for 48 hours.
If you look around this site, you'll find lots of discussion and examples for sumps. Here's a link to my thread where I was trying to design one. It has photos of my first design. https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/336686/possible-wet-dry-sump-design
I couldn't find the one where I posted photos of the step by step (re-) construction of my second design. sorry.
 

i<3reefs

Member
1. Water Changes - 5-10% water change weekly is the smartest thing to maintain your aquarium easily. I tell every single person to do this, and 95% of them don't. Make sure you read or learn the steps on how to do a proper water change.
2. Adding Calcium - Only dose what your measure. Buy a test kit if you intend to dose Calcium. To much, and to little both cause problems.
3. Anything else? Yes, use Reef Crystals Salt, it already has calcium in it, when you do your water changes, you'll be replacing the vast majority of the basic nutrients your aquarium will need. After that, dosing Calcium or other supplements will come with more experience.
Most important thing to remember, is keep asking questions. Sadly, a lot of hobbyist actually know more about reef gardening than the folks who work in aquarium stores.
 

lovinmynemo

Member
Came home tonight to find three mushrooms about a quarter of an inch in diameter growin on my rocks , how cool is that
 

bulldog123

Member
There are people that will build a custom sump if you want it. Plan on spending $400-$600 shipping including. Thats why people build their own.
 

king_neptune

Active Member
ya vince is right.
build your own sump out of an old unwanted tank on CL.
i baught a 55gal perfect for a sump for $20
or you can go to walmart/home depot and pickup a tub for the same price. or a feed store and geta pig/horse watering trough.
anyway you slice it, a home made sump is ideal cause you design it according to your individual needs.
 

lovinmynemo

Member
Originally Posted by King_Neptune
http:///forum/post/3105471
ya vince is right.
build your own sump out of an old unwanted tank on CL.
i baught a 55gal perfect for a sump for $20
or you can go to walmart/home depot and pickup a tub for the same price. or a feed store and geta pig/horse watering trough.
anyway you slice it, a home made sump is ideal cause you design it according to your individual needs.
lookin into the sump build ,should I go with live rock rubble,Bio balls , or a refugium,with the limited space I would like to put my skimmer in the sump ,will this cause any issues
 
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