Building lights for a canopy

milomlo

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Hey I found this today. Anyone have a comment on this? This is on a 175W MH
"Iwasaki has been making quality 6500K lamps for many years. They are know for outstanding quality control and dependability. Now they have came out with a new 14K 175watt lamp. We are getting reports that this bulb puts out more light then a comparable 250watt lamp. Limited supply!!!"
 

jakebtc

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Q. What would you use a 6,500K lamp for?
A. This color temp is excellent for hydroponic use, freshwater plants, and coral grow out tanks. Many people also use these lamps for indoor plant lighting needs. But, if you're going for heavy growth in an SPS tank, then this is one of the better bulbs. Supplement it with Actinics, and the light overall can be quite nice. Color, like so much in this hobby, is really a matter of preference and personal opinion and taste.
 

jakebtc

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Daylight color with an overall full spectrum light
6,500K bulbs give you a more overall natural "sunlight" type of spectrum.
Great for growing SPS type corals, most prefer this color temp over 10,000K.
 

scsinet

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Originally Posted by milomlo
Hey I found this today. Anyone have a comment on this? This is on a 175W MH
"Iwasaki has been making quality 6500K lamps for many years. They are know for outstanding quality control and dependability. Now they have came out with a new 14K 175watt lamp. We are getting reports that this bulb puts out more light then a comparable 250watt lamp. Limited supply!!!"
Well, you can't get blood from a Turnip. I doubt that claim on the grounds that the bulb would have to nearly double in efficency to produce 250 watts worth of light with 175 watts. I'd doubt it.
You could try it, but be sure the bulb you get is compatible with the ballast you have. In addition to wattage, you have to match the lamp type (probe start or pulse start).
 

milomlo

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I guess I was referring to the fact that they are stating their 175W 10K bulb is compariable to a 250W.
 

scsinet

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That's what I am saying as well... I doubt seriously that a 175 watt bulb could truthfully boast claim to being as bright as a 250 from another manufacturer.
I'm a skeptic by nature, so if you think it's worth a shot, go for it.
 

milomlo

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SCS I did not see your post before I posted. I had only read Jake's. NO I didn't think it was for real I just wanted to know if anyone had heard that and any thougths on it.
Another question. I read somewhere a few months ago that T-5 is brighter than VHO and PC. Is this true? If that is the case will I not need as much wattage or is wattage wattage no matter what??
 

scsinet

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It's a matter of density. A T5 bulb is smaller and allows you to fit more of them into the same space. Fluorescent output on a watt-by-watt basis really doesn't vary from bulb to bulb. A 100 watt fluorescent bulb of one type is going to be roughy as bright as a 100 watt bulb of another type (VHO vs. PC , for instance).
What varies is the physical size of the bulb, and how many of them you can fit into a given space. T5 is quite a bit "skinnier" than T12, so you can pack more of them in. Really, it doesn't matter in your application because you are only using fluorescent as supplemental illumination, so you aren't going to be putting so many into your canopy that space becomes an issue. As far as fluorescent goes in your application, you can use just abuot any of the big aquarium technologies: CF/PC, VHO, HO, T5, T12, etc and be just fine.
 

milomlo

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Ok thank you that clears that up. Now let me ask you this. I have been looking at those HD fixtures and putting aquarium bulbs in it. To try it out lets say before I may alot for a VHO set up or whatever i decide to get.
What fixture would a VHO fit in? Is it a standard flourescent fixture? Just curious as they are like 14-30 bucks.
 

scsinet

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VHO tubes are standard size to normal bulbs. The 14-30 fixtures you are talking about are likely 4' shop lights, so standard 110 watt 48" VHOs will fit.
I believe a normal fixture will ligth them, but it won't work well.
 

milomlo

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All the ones I have seen so far are T12 - T8 bulbs, is there a certain size I should look at? Also if I want to try it with 110 W VHO the fixture needs to be rated as such right?
So far all I have seen is like 48" 40 watt T-12 or 8 something like that.
 
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