california outages
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dbgator1
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You need to get yourself some battery operated bubblers so you can at least have some oxygen going into your tank. If it is for a couple of hours here and there they should be fine but long periods of time are not good. I've gone through 3 hurricanes and long power outages in the last 2 years and believe me you do not want to smell your tank after a day or so with no power. When i came back after the first storm which was a category 4 coming in my house stunk like a dead ocean and my 8 fish were already starting to decompose it was nasty. I will never leave my house again just si i can be tgere to give my new fish a fighting chance. I have invested in a generator and will use it to power pumps and things that i need for my tank.
hardcrab67
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Also the pwrback-up for computers are nice from what I've read. I hate to say it but I'm unprepared myself. Isabelle left us for a week w/ no pwr and we do get ice storms in the winter that have done the same. I do have access to a generator, but its borrowed and might have to give it up if they need it long term. They say airstones are bad for the tank, so I'd rather run my pumps, plus the heater is a must in the winter. The backup is suppose to come on when the pwr goes off, also great if I'm not home when it happens.
murph145
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hers my power backup
its a 400W battery backup system i have my return pump plugged into it so at least water will continue to move in the tank.... it should last about 6 hours worth of time....
it cost me $200 at best buy
i also have a generator incase the power is out for longer periods of time so i can plug my whole tank into it.... i have the battery backup system cuz u never know if ur guna be home when the power goes out.... so it buys u time until then
id say ur tank should be fine for about 4-6 hours with no water movement anything over that is guna be kinda iffy
its a 400W battery backup system i have my return pump plugged into it so at least water will continue to move in the tank.... it should last about 6 hours worth of time....
it cost me $200 at best buy
i also have a generator incase the power is out for longer periods of time so i can plug my whole tank into it.... i have the battery backup system cuz u never know if ur guna be home when the power goes out.... so it buys u time until then
id say ur tank should be fine for about 4-6 hours with no water movement anything over that is guna be kinda iffy
miamireefr
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Just to reinforce what Murph is saying, I posed a question myself not to long ago regarding a backup in case of outage and he reccomended a battery back up as you can see his above... Since of course my return doesn't use alot of wattage I got a smaller unit from Best buy and I have tested it to work a little over 4 hours at 25w consumption. More than enough for average power outages....Now I am working on a generator. For now I can buy myself 4 extra hours of peace which is better than nothing at all...
n2theblue
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I live in So. Cal. (Riverside/Perris) and we have been having frequent power outages (6 or more per day). None, however, have lasted longer than an hour. I regularly turn all my pumps off for 20-30 min when I'm feeding with no problems, so I doubt the short power outages that we have here are a big prob. Due to the frequent outages and the fact that we can't always be home when they happen, I think that ensuring your system (pumps, sump, timers, etc.) starts functioning normally as soon as the power comes back on is a more important priority than a battery back up. Another important consideration if you're not home during the day is ensuring that your ac unit will come back if you're not home to turn it on. Some home cooling systems reset during a power outage and have to be manually turned on, which can turn even a short power outage into disaster if no one is home to turn it back on. We switched out our house thermostat and put it on a battery back up so that it resumes its previous settings as soon as the power comes back on.
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matttn1
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I have a INVERTER hooked up on my truck I use when the power goes out. with the cost of gas its not a long term fix. but hey it keeps my tank going and my TV.
murph
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I would bring a law suit against the state of California for any losses
Due to pressure from radical left wing environmental groups the state has not built a power plant in decades. IMO this is willful negligence and in the case of livestock the court awards twice the purchase price and in the case of willful negligence punitive damages (to punish) can also be sought.
Lots of luck getting anything of a common sense nature done in "The Peoples Republic of California" however.
IN the immortal words of Archie Bunker, "California is a cereal bowl state. Most people there is fruits and nuts and the rest is flakes".
Present company excluded of course.
Due to pressure from radical left wing environmental groups the state has not built a power plant in decades. IMO this is willful negligence and in the case of livestock the court awards twice the purchase price and in the case of willful negligence punitive damages (to punish) can also be sought.
Lots of luck getting anything of a common sense nature done in "The Peoples Republic of California" however.
IN the immortal words of Archie Bunker, "California is a cereal bowl state. Most people there is fruits and nuts and the rest is flakes".
Present company excluded of course.
gsd
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Kinda harsh aren't ya Murph? But its the truth. The power companies know full well what kind of useage can be had, as they install and have meters on all places that consume power. So if they have say 1000 , 200 amp services installed, then they should be able to provide power to those 1000 places ata rating of 200 amps draw withut causung a black out or brown out., Evidently they have more customers than they can legitimately handle with their online capacity they have now. Seems they probably build more personal accounts or squander the money than actually use it for beulding bigger and better sources.....y'all can thank Nancy Peolsi and Boxer and a lot more of the tree hugger types that also hide under ther title of movie stars for the situation.
murph
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It is not the power companies that are to blame. They have to have state go ahead to build more power plants and they cant get it.
That and the fact that they are used by the state as a tax collecting device. I have never lived in California but I would bet a few bucks that the average monthly bill consist of up to twenty percent taxes that go unnoticed by your average consumer who does not take a good look at there bills break down. Then of course when the bills are high and service sucks the state points the finger at the "greedy" power company.
Same goes for gasoline. Here again I don't know the exact statistics but I would bet the primary beneficiary of the sale of gasoline in California is the state government! Probably making a twenty to thirty percent profit/tax per gallon as opposed to the oil companies paltry 7 percent.
And then cigarettes. Here again the primary beneficiary of its sale is state and federal government. Phillip Morris makes about a nickel a pack. Yet the price per pack is easily 4 bucks. You do the math. And when the class action law suit gets filed they don't name the government as the defendant but they do sue Phillip Morris
It is high time we started pointing the finger of blame at the right people.
That and the fact that they are used by the state as a tax collecting device. I have never lived in California but I would bet a few bucks that the average monthly bill consist of up to twenty percent taxes that go unnoticed by your average consumer who does not take a good look at there bills break down. Then of course when the bills are high and service sucks the state points the finger at the "greedy" power company.
Same goes for gasoline. Here again I don't know the exact statistics but I would bet the primary beneficiary of the sale of gasoline in California is the state government! Probably making a twenty to thirty percent profit/tax per gallon as opposed to the oil companies paltry 7 percent.
And then cigarettes. Here again the primary beneficiary of its sale is state and federal government. Phillip Morris makes about a nickel a pack. Yet the price per pack is easily 4 bucks. You do the math. And when the class action law suit gets filed they don't name the government as the defendant but they do sue Phillip Morris
It is high time we started pointing the finger of blame at the right people.
n2theblue
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In my experience, the fault doesn't lie entirely with the power companies or the government. Everyone is guilty of the "yeah we want power, but I don't want a power plant/transformer/powerlines/whatever in my backyard". The number of people and homes has exploded and their is just no system in place to handle the demand. The state government doesn't typically stop construction/expansion, it's the homeowners of any proposed site. Now, that's not to say the government doesn't hold up projects, but the biggest obstacle comes from the actual energy consumers themselves who want the juice but not any of the necessary hardware/production facilities.