can live sand also be brought back to life?
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pezenfuego
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Originally Posted by Jennie
http:///forum/post/3184836
I still have the "live sand" from my old tank. Can it be brought back to life like the rock can? If so how?
thanks
Jenn
Live rock can seed the "plain" sand to an extent and so can freshly harvested live sand.
http:///forum/post/3184836
I still have the "live sand" from my old tank. Can it be brought back to life like the rock can? If so how?
thanks
Jenn
Live rock can seed the "plain" sand to an extent and so can freshly harvested live sand.
florida joe
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I still have the "live sand" from my old tank. Can it be brought back to life like the rock can?
I am really sorry but WHAT. you still have live sand and you want to bring it back to life. How much more alive do you want it to be
I am really sorry but WHAT. you still have live sand and you want to bring it back to life. How much more alive do you want it to be
florida joe
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Originally Posted by Jennie
http:///forum/post/3184880
Hahaha,
The sand is now dried out. I guess that did sound a little stupid, sorry
not to worry i have corned the market on stupid. just add some live sand and let nature take its course
http:///forum/post/3184880
Hahaha,
The sand is now dried out. I guess that did sound a little stupid, sorry
not to worry i have corned the market on stupid. just add some live sand and let nature take its course
florida joe
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srfisher17
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Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/3184883
not to worry i have corned the market on stupid. just add some live sand and let nature take its course
Hey Joe, you can't take all that credit----I have a big share of the stupid market too!
http:///forum/post/3184883
not to worry i have corned the market on stupid. just add some live sand and let nature take its course
Hey Joe, you can't take all that credit----I have a big share of the stupid market too!
srfisher17
Active Member
Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3185111
You can count me in too!!
The Grinch + Forrest Gump= Forrest Grump?
http:///forum/post/3185111
You can count me in too!!
The Grinch + Forrest Gump= Forrest Grump?
srfisher17
Active Member
Originally Posted by Jennie
http:///forum/post/3184836
I still have the "live sand" from my old tank. Can it be brought back to life like the rock can? If so how?
thanks
Jenn
I'd really do some basic reading so you understand what "live" sand or rock really is; there are a lot of misconceptions; simply put, its just rock or sand cultured with the right bacteria. Culturing this bacteria is the main thing I do; when I do it right, my tanks thrive. If you're not a good bacteria farmer, you can't be a good fish-keeper.
http:///forum/post/3184836
I still have the "live sand" from my old tank. Can it be brought back to life like the rock can? If so how?
thanks
Jenn
I'd really do some basic reading so you understand what "live" sand or rock really is; there are a lot of misconceptions; simply put, its just rock or sand cultured with the right bacteria. Culturing this bacteria is the main thing I do; when I do it right, my tanks thrive. If you're not a good bacteria farmer, you can't be a good fish-keeper.
spanko
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I tend towards this explanation from Charles & Linda Raabe.
" Besides acting as a major component of our filtration, Live rock, Base rock and sand also provides our tanks with some diversity of life forms. For the sake of using correct terminology, Live rock is NOT bare rock that has some filtering bacteria on it, I don't care who or how many people continue to use the term "live" for what should be correctly called base rock. To state that a base rock is "alive" just because it has had time in a tank to develop some bacteria on it is misleading, if that was the case, then I have "live" glass, and "live" plastic in my tank. As the filtering bacteria will grow on anything you put in the water. LIVE ROCK = rock that has been colonized by a multitude of life forms including, but not limited to: corals, sponges, algae, inverts, worms and of course bacteria which forms a habitat unto its own. This type of habitat forms the foundation of all tropical reefs.
" Besides acting as a major component of our filtration, Live rock, Base rock and sand also provides our tanks with some diversity of life forms. For the sake of using correct terminology, Live rock is NOT bare rock that has some filtering bacteria on it, I don't care who or how many people continue to use the term "live" for what should be correctly called base rock. To state that a base rock is "alive" just because it has had time in a tank to develop some bacteria on it is misleading, if that was the case, then I have "live" glass, and "live" plastic in my tank. As the filtering bacteria will grow on anything you put in the water. LIVE ROCK = rock that has been colonized by a multitude of life forms including, but not limited to: corals, sponges, algae, inverts, worms and of course bacteria which forms a habitat unto its own. This type of habitat forms the foundation of all tropical reefs.
scopus tang
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Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3185635
I tend towards this explanation from Charles & Linda Raabe.
" Besides acting as a major component of our filtration, Live rock, Base rock and sand also provides our tanks with some diversity of life forms. For the sake of using correct terminology, Live rock is NOT bare rock that has some filtering bacteria on it, I don't care who or how many people continue to use the term "live" for what should be correctly called base rock. To state that a base rock is "alive" just because it has had time in a tank to develop some bacteria on it is misleading, if that was the case, then I have "live" glass, and "live" plastic in my tank. As the filtering bacteria will grow on anything you put in the water. LIVE ROCK = rock that has been colonized by a multitude of life forms including, but not limited to: corals, sponges, algae, inverts, worms and of course bacteria which forms a habitat unto its own. This type of habitat forms the foundation of all tropical reefs.
Ooooohhhh I like this explaination soooooo much better! Who wants LR and LS with nothing but bacteria on/in it. To me good LR and good LS has lots of good living microorganisms, not just bacteria!
http:///forum/post/3185635
I tend towards this explanation from Charles & Linda Raabe.
" Besides acting as a major component of our filtration, Live rock, Base rock and sand also provides our tanks with some diversity of life forms. For the sake of using correct terminology, Live rock is NOT bare rock that has some filtering bacteria on it, I don't care who or how many people continue to use the term "live" for what should be correctly called base rock. To state that a base rock is "alive" just because it has had time in a tank to develop some bacteria on it is misleading, if that was the case, then I have "live" glass, and "live" plastic in my tank. As the filtering bacteria will grow on anything you put in the water. LIVE ROCK = rock that has been colonized by a multitude of life forms including, but not limited to: corals, sponges, algae, inverts, worms and of course bacteria which forms a habitat unto its own. This type of habitat forms the foundation of all tropical reefs.
Ooooohhhh I like this explaination soooooo much better! Who wants LR and LS with nothing but bacteria on/in it. To me good LR and good LS has lots of good living microorganisms, not just bacteria!
srfisher17
Active Member
Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3185635
I tend towards this explanation from Charles & Linda Raabe.
" Besides acting as a major component of our filtration, Live rock, Base rock and sand also provides our tanks with some diversity of life forms. For the sake of using correct terminology, Live rock is NOT bare rock that has some filtering bacteria on it, I don't care who or how many people continue to use the term "live" for what should be correctly called base rock. To state that a base rock is "alive" just because it has had time in a tank to develop some bacteria on it is misleading, if that was the case, then I have "live" glass, and "live" plastic in my tank. As the filtering bacteria will grow on anything you put in the water. LIVE ROCK = rock that has been colonized by a multitude of life forms including, but not limited to: corals, sponges, algae, inverts, worms and of course bacteria which forms a habitat unto its own. This type of habitat forms the foundation of all tropical reefs.
You're right about the multitude of life that comes with LR & LS, of course. I really over-simplified. But that is why I use the word "cultured"--much different than just "being there"; and I wouldn't consider base rock to be LR until it was also colonized with anaerobic bacteria as well as the standard aerobic. I also think LR & LS do a lot of things we don't know about yet. Making this even more complicated is the fact that much LR isn't really "live" anymore when it arrives and needs to be cured.
http:///forum/post/3185635
I tend towards this explanation from Charles & Linda Raabe.
" Besides acting as a major component of our filtration, Live rock, Base rock and sand also provides our tanks with some diversity of life forms. For the sake of using correct terminology, Live rock is NOT bare rock that has some filtering bacteria on it, I don't care who or how many people continue to use the term "live" for what should be correctly called base rock. To state that a base rock is "alive" just because it has had time in a tank to develop some bacteria on it is misleading, if that was the case, then I have "live" glass, and "live" plastic in my tank. As the filtering bacteria will grow on anything you put in the water. LIVE ROCK = rock that has been colonized by a multitude of life forms including, but not limited to: corals, sponges, algae, inverts, worms and of course bacteria which forms a habitat unto its own. This type of habitat forms the foundation of all tropical reefs.
You're right about the multitude of life that comes with LR & LS, of course. I really over-simplified. But that is why I use the word "cultured"--much different than just "being there"; and I wouldn't consider base rock to be LR until it was also colonized with anaerobic bacteria as well as the standard aerobic. I also think LR & LS do a lot of things we don't know about yet. Making this even more complicated is the fact that much LR isn't really "live" anymore when it arrives and needs to be cured.
browniebuck
Active Member
Originally Posted by Jennie
http:///forum/post/3184854
So then I can put the old sand in and then add new live sand? Do I need to sift or wash the old sand?
Before you put it back into a tank, I would rinse it to make sure that any "undesirables" are washed away. If you simply took it out of a tank and stored it in a bucket, all of the living things that were in it have since died, which COULD lead to some problems when you re-introduce it...rinse it thoroughly (until the water is pretty clear), then put it in the tank with live rock. You could also consider buying a smaller quantity of new live sand that will speed up the process of this old sand coming back to life.
http:///forum/post/3184854
So then I can put the old sand in and then add new live sand? Do I need to sift or wash the old sand?
Before you put it back into a tank, I would rinse it to make sure that any "undesirables" are washed away. If you simply took it out of a tank and stored it in a bucket, all of the living things that were in it have since died, which COULD lead to some problems when you re-introduce it...rinse it thoroughly (until the water is pretty clear), then put it in the tank with live rock. You could also consider buying a smaller quantity of new live sand that will speed up the process of this old sand coming back to life.
florida joe
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Scopus Tang
http:///forum/post/3185663
Ooooohhhh I like this explaination soooooo much better! Who wants LR and LS with nothing but bacteria on/in it. To me good LR and good LS has lots of good living microorganisms, not just bacteria!
He is not a myth but a real person (i think) oh thank god. Randy ? Randy ? is that you
http:///forum/post/3185663
Ooooohhhh I like this explaination soooooo much better! Who wants LR and LS with nothing but bacteria on/in it. To me good LR and good LS has lots of good living microorganisms, not just bacteria!
He is not a myth but a real person (i think) oh thank god. Randy ? Randy ? is that you