cant get my chaeto to tumble

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eric b 125

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it just gets pushed against the baffle and sits there. my refugium is in a 40 gallon sump with "over-under-over" baffles. it hasn't grown much either. i was thinking about adding another baffle, so the water goes "under-over-under-over" but i really dont want to break my sump down. there's no way to get it out of the stand without breaking the entire tank down and removing it from the top of the cabinet. there's also very little room to do such a project without removing the sump. maybe adding a small powerhead to the fuge would help, but i think that the chaeto would just find it's way around the flow. any suggestions?
 

2quills

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What type of power head are you using? I believe it needs to be in a fairly compact/tight ball. You probably want a powerhead with a fiarly focused directional flow. If not then as long as it gets pretty good flow and you flip it every now and then you should be fine.
 
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eric b 125

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for some reason i was always under the impression that it's best to have the chaeto slowly tumbling in the fuge...?
i dont have a powerhead in the fuge, i was just throwing that out as a possible option to get the chaeto to tumble.
 

2quills

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I don't think it always necissarily needs to be tumbled as long as it's getting good flow through it. From my understanding of what other hobbiest are saying is that it has a tendancy to collect deitrus without good flow. So idealy good flow and tumbling would be best. But I think as long as it gets flow and you hand tumble it every now and then you'll be fine. Also the tumbling allows light to penetrate inside the ball better from many angles to help help it grow faster and prevent die off which would leach of nutrients back into the tank.
A couple of sources....
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Chaetomorpha Algae, also known as Spaghetti Algae or Green Hair Algae, is an excellent macro algae for refugiums. Each cell grows end to end, creating long, stiff strands. It grows in filamentous clumps, resembling a ball of fishing line. This algae is fast growing and is not palatable to many herbivorous species.
Chaetomorpha Algae removes both phosphates and nitrates from the water. To increase the amount of nutrients this algae exports, use moderate to high lighting and keep it in an area of high water flow. It should ideally be tumbled in an algae filter.

Chaetomorpha

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It has a natural distribution range throughout Australia, yet it is under-utilized in Australia in favor of other macroalgae and other nutrient removal techniques.
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A cheap, energy saving globe with a low Kelvin rating (5000-6500K) can be used to maximize growth. Cheatomorpha should be 'tumbled' with good water flow to prevent other less-desirable algae from settling on it.
 

slice

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The chaeto in my HOB fuge can't tumble, the fuge is much too narrow for that. It still grows like crazy; I took back to the LFS last weekend 2 gallon baggies stuffed full of it, enough to exchange for 10 nerite snails and some frozen food. I had some in my QT that tumbled, it also grew very well. It doesn't seem to make any difference to me; I do think the tumble thing is like Corey said, just to make sure all of it gets light.
As far as detritus accumulation, it will regardless of tumbling or not. In my HOB fuge, it is "living filter floss"; I have to rinse it with every water change.
 

cryptics

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What type of flow does this need? I am planning on setting up my DIY sump/fuge this weekend and was under the impression it needed 200-300 gph so I was going to make it the 3rd section being fed by a maxijet 400 from the 1st section (intake/skimmer). If it needs high flow maybe I should make it the second and just feed it with the natural flow through the sump. My Fuge plans was just sand bed and chaeto with a light on when the DT lights are off
 

slice

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Originally Posted by cryptics http:///forum/thread/384882/cant-get-my-chaeto-to-tumble#post_3373556
What type of flow does this need? I am planning on setting up my DIY sump/fuge this weekend and was under the impression it needed 200-300 gph so I was going to make it the 3rd section being fed by a maxijet 400 from the 1st section (intake/skimmer). If it needs high flow maybe I should make it the second and just feed it with the natural flow through the sump. My Fuge plans was just sand bed and chaeto with a light on when the DT lights are off
My HOB skimmer/fuge, a CPR Aquafuge II PS, runs an Accela pump at 260gph, so I think you are on the right track. I also run my fuge lights opposite the DT and it really helps keep the pH fairly steady. The larger question I think, is what size fuge relative to you DT? I've read that 10% of the DT volume is the minimum recommended.
 

cryptics

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The tank is going to be a 90g and the sump/fuge is 30g. I was planning the fuge to be about 10g but may make it a little larger
 
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