carbon shipping expiriment/zoas

scopus tang

scopus tang

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Originally Posted by reefkprZ
http:///forum/post/2637032
the palythoas look great

the blue eyes look fuzzy..... not good.
hey did anything leak? at all?in thermos? in bag, between bags?
Nothing leaked, except thermos (inner bag only) second bag caught it all. Not sure why, didn't find a hole.
Everything else was great

Originally Posted by reefkprZ
http:///forum/post/2637036
OH palys are as low in my tank as possible, and blue eyes were in the top, so it may take the blue eyes a while to come around at sand bed level (dont move them though) just let them acclimate. if we are lucky they'll pull through.
Good to know, will wait and see what happens.
 
scopus tang

scopus tang

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Originally Posted by reefkprZ
http:///forum/post/2637036
OH palys are as low in my tank as possible, and blue eyes were in the top, so it may take the blue eyes a while to come around at sand bed level (dont move them though) just let them acclimate. if we are lucky they'll pull through.
Good to know, will wait and see what happens.
 
reefkprz

reefkprz

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as a preliminary statement, in one test, even a few particles of carbon can reduce (pollutants) enough to reduce ammonia spiking after 5 days in transit. in common test kits....
well scopus I say that was more of a test than we intended but..... its a test isnt it.
Call to all reefers that like to ship corals
Please try this and post your results IF your willing to risk a frag on it. I did this just to see what may happen. any and all results of such an expiriment will be welcome.
 
earnit33

earnit33

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So did you just rinse and put a little carbon in your bags or thermos!with frags.Just trying to learn alittle more,don't mean to sound dumb!
 
scopus tang

scopus tang

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Originally Posted by reefkprZ
http:///forum/post/2637042
as a preliminary statement, in one test, even a few particles of carbon can reduce (pollutants) enough to reduce ammonia spiking after 5 days in transit. in common test kits....
well scopus I say that was more of a test than we intended but..... its a test isnt it.
Was indeed Z, but nobody can say we didn't test to the extreme. Must say that you grow some pretty tough palythoa. Both are open and looking good today; will post some updated pics tomorrow evening when I get into school (dial up is way too slow). Zoas are still closed, but haven't started melting, so there is still hope
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reefkprz

reefkprz

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Originally Posted by earnit33
http:///forum/post/2637556
So did you just rinse and put a little carbon in your bags or thermos!with frags.Just trying to learn alittle more,don't mean to sound dumb!

I put a couple granules (after rinsing them off) in the bag of water with the frag only about 6 pieces (I think maybe scopus remembers how many was in the bag) the palythoa were not in a thermos, just in the insulated box the thermos was riding in.
 
scopus tang

scopus tang

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Originally Posted by reefkprZ
http:///forum/post/2638962
I put a couple granules (after rinsing them off) in the bag of water with the frag only about 6 pieces (I think maybe scopus remembers how many was in the bag) the palythoa were not in a thermos, just in the insulated box the thermos was riding in.
Truth be told, I was so concerned with getting things out of the bags that I didn't count, and the trash was already dumped. Like Z, I would guess there were about half-a-dozen
. Sorry
 
flricordia

flricordia

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I've actually had rics delayed and go a week and most of them still made it. Was a double named street thing in the same town and the PO delivered to the wrong one, but the time it was straightened out a week had passed, but most of the rics were fine.
But I really think the soaking on kalk will play an important role in heloing to keep the ph up.
I soak them in about a cup of saltwater and a teaspoon of kalk for a day, rinse lightly in saltwater and allow them to dry. I have a styro box top of them for shipping.
 
reefkprz

reefkprz

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*S* I expirienced both ends of the spectrum, I've had corals only in the bag 3 days crash, both shipped and recived, and now this 5 days looking pretty good. I think we got lucky and it wasnt super hot or super cold the days the corals were in transit.
 
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alexmir

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i am thinking about trying this with a few zoo polyps i dont want and a mushroom thats floating around. I will probably just keep the frag at my house, and keep the box in the garage, rather than ship them. The box wouldnt know the difference.
im pretty shocked that the zoo polyp made it for five days with no help. I think if it would have been a decent sized frag, anything larger than one polyp that the control polyp wouldnt have made it.
Nice experiment. Why do you think it caused phosphates? and are phosphates dangerous at that level for a short period of time?
 
scopus tang

scopus tang

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Originally Posted by alexmir
http:///forum/post/2644999
i am thinking about trying this with a few zoo polyps i dont want and a mushroom thats floating around. I will probably just keep the frag at my house, and keep the box in the garage, rather than ship them. The box wouldnt know the difference.
im pretty shocked that the zoo polyp made it for five days with no help. I think if it would have been a decent sized frag, anything larger than one polyp that the control polyp wouldnt have made it.
Nice experiment. Why do you think it caused phosphates? and are phosphates dangerous at that level for a short period of time?
My guess (and it is just a guess) on the phosphates is that the carbon pellets provided a site for bacteria to grow over the five day period, and the bacteria began converting the toxic ammonia into nitrite and phosphate (I believe phosphate kit tests for much lower levels than the nitrite). Phosphate to my knowledge is not toxic, the main issue with phosphate is algae growth (not an issue in a dark bag, inside a dark thermos, inside a dark box)
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flricordia

flricordia

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Originally Posted by Scopus Tang
http:///forum/post/2645118
My guess (and it is just a guess) on the phosphates is that the carbon pellets provided a site for bacteria to grow over the five day period, and the bacteria began converting the toxic ammonia into nitrite and phosphate (I believe phosphate kit tests for much lower levels than the nitrite). Phosphate to my knowledge is not toxic, the main issue with phosphate is algae growth (not an issue in a dark bag, inside a dark thermos, inside a dark box)
.
Very impressed. Might be good to do some more tests. I don't have test kits myself but seems like it would be something to go further with. Maybe take a dead minnow, goldfish something, even a F/T silverside, place into a shipping situation, one with carbon soaked in kalk and one without, let them sit for 3 days or so and do test results.
 
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