Changing out a 125.
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wattsupdoc
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Thanks ameno! Hey what happened to the orangatang? He was too funny, looks like a helper i used to have. Hmmmm, matter of fact, that guy sure could climb around in some tight places. He really like doing landscape lighting too...With all the trees and all....HMMMMMM
Tank looks sweet! Keep up the fight!
Tank looks sweet! Keep up the fight!
ameno
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I decided to let the orangatang go for awhile and show off my tank instead, I was thinking I would never get there it's been a six month ordeal trying to get it set up, but that's because I had to finish are addition first.
Did you all get any of the ice storm that came outa Oklahoma? Looks like it was moving that way, It's been in the 70's here. has made hunting lousy.
Did you all get any of the ice storm that came outa Oklahoma? Looks like it was moving that way, It's been in the 70's here. has made hunting lousy.
wattsupdoc
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No bad ice for us this time around. It narrowly missed us though. We had ice yesterday morning, but mostly rain. Springfield had some outages, but nothin bad. It's in the 60's today, with rain.Supposed to be back in the 30's tomorrow. Crazy weather. Hey you know where to bag some ferrel hogs at around there? We have a few isolated packs of them around here, but they're real ellusive creatures. You guys have a bunch down there from what I here.
ameno
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I know a few people that hunt them around lake ouchita national forest area, but I never have, I've just pretty much gotten down to deer hunting on my back 40. I know here in Texarkana were I work people are always talking about getting hogs, apperenlty there is a lot of them around here too. Tell me what you think.
I've been having some issues with PH on my tank, the low is around 8.4 and in the evening before lights out it will go up as high as 8.7. I stoped adding kalk a week ago when I put in a PH meter and saw more accuratly were it's running., I've been told that as long as it stays below 9 your Ok, but this seems high, and I want to build a kalk stirrer and start doing kalk sometime to help keep cal. levels stable but can't with the ph this high.
do you think this is to high? What would cause it to stay at this high of levels,
Is this really a bad thing, I don't know, most people talk about to low of ph issues but haven't seen much about high PH.
I've been having some issues with PH on my tank, the low is around 8.4 and in the evening before lights out it will go up as high as 8.7. I stoped adding kalk a week ago when I put in a PH meter and saw more accuratly were it's running., I've been told that as long as it stays below 9 your Ok, but this seems high, and I want to build a kalk stirrer and start doing kalk sometime to help keep cal. levels stable but can't with the ph this high.
do you think this is to high? What would cause it to stay at this high of levels,
Is this really a bad thing, I don't know, most people talk about to low of ph issues but haven't seen much about high PH.
wattsupdoc
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It is a bit on the high side. RHF states 7.8 to 8.5 for the allowable range.
From Randy Holmes Farley, on High PH.
The pH of marine aquarium water is intimately tied to the amount of carbon dioxide dissolved in the water and to its alkalinity. In fact, if water is fully aerated (that is, it is in full equilibrium with normal air), then the pH is exactly determined by the carbonate alkalinity. The higher the alkalinity, the higher the pH. There is, in fact, a simple mathematical relationship between alkalinity, pH, and carbon dioxide that I have discussed previously. Figure 2 shows this relationship graphically for seawater equilibrated with normal air (350 ppm carbon dioxide), and equilibrated with air having extra carbon dioxide as might be present in certain homes (1000 ppm). Figure 2 also shows the pH/alkalinity relationship in water that is deficient in carbon dioxide. Nearly all high pH situations encountered in reef aquaria are caused by a carbon dioxide deficiency.
Only rarely would excessively high pH be caused by high alkalinity alone, because in order for the pH to rise above pH 8.5 with a "normal" amount of carbon dioxide present, the alkalinity would have to be above 5 meq/L (Figure 2). At these high levels of both pH and alkalinity, calcium carbonate would very likely begin to precipitate abiotically, and such precipitation itself reduces pH and alkalinity. So if such a situation arose, it would not typically last long on its own in a reef aquarium
Then the part that reffers to you I believe.
Aerating the water, driving in carbon dioxide, is shown graphically in Figure 5. As carbon dioxide is added, the data point representing the aquarium's pH and alkalinity begins to shift horizontally from the "CO2 Deficient" curve to the normal CO2 curve (green line in Figure 5). Aerating with normal air cannot overshoot, and perfect aeration will land the aquarium on the normal CO2 line. Aeration with ******** air that may contain excessive carbon dioxide can overshoot the pH target, and drive the aquarium's pH even lower (Figure 6).
Run your skimmers air intake line to an outside source if you can. Try to get the tank some fresh air somehow. The skimmer air line should do it.
From Randy Holmes Farley, on High PH.
The pH of marine aquarium water is intimately tied to the amount of carbon dioxide dissolved in the water and to its alkalinity. In fact, if water is fully aerated (that is, it is in full equilibrium with normal air), then the pH is exactly determined by the carbonate alkalinity. The higher the alkalinity, the higher the pH. There is, in fact, a simple mathematical relationship between alkalinity, pH, and carbon dioxide that I have discussed previously. Figure 2 shows this relationship graphically for seawater equilibrated with normal air (350 ppm carbon dioxide), and equilibrated with air having extra carbon dioxide as might be present in certain homes (1000 ppm). Figure 2 also shows the pH/alkalinity relationship in water that is deficient in carbon dioxide. Nearly all high pH situations encountered in reef aquaria are caused by a carbon dioxide deficiency.
Only rarely would excessively high pH be caused by high alkalinity alone, because in order for the pH to rise above pH 8.5 with a "normal" amount of carbon dioxide present, the alkalinity would have to be above 5 meq/L (Figure 2). At these high levels of both pH and alkalinity, calcium carbonate would very likely begin to precipitate abiotically, and such precipitation itself reduces pH and alkalinity. So if such a situation arose, it would not typically last long on its own in a reef aquarium
Then the part that reffers to you I believe.
Aerating the water, driving in carbon dioxide, is shown graphically in Figure 5. As carbon dioxide is added, the data point representing the aquarium's pH and alkalinity begins to shift horizontally from the "CO2 Deficient" curve to the normal CO2 curve (green line in Figure 5). Aerating with normal air cannot overshoot, and perfect aeration will land the aquarium on the normal CO2 line. Aeration with ******** air that may contain excessive carbon dioxide can overshoot the pH target, and drive the aquarium's pH even lower (Figure 6).
Run your skimmers air intake line to an outside source if you can. Try to get the tank some fresh air somehow. The skimmer air line should do it.
wattsupdoc
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The room that it's in.. does it get a lot of fresh air in it? Like from outside? You would be suprised how tight the room may actually be, yet still not seem as though it is. If not taking air from ouitside will be the best choice.
ameno
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I think I found the problem, after you mentioned Farley I started reading some of his articles about PH, alk, cal. this stuff gets pretty deep, but one thing he mentioned was if your PH is above 8.5 then there is probably something wrong with your monitor and your ph is not really that high, I didn't think that was it because I had just calibrated it last weekend and even check it against my old test kit. but when I recalibated it showed being .4 off, so now it is reading 8.2. Don't know what made it get off calibration so quick but maybe being new just took some time to adjust, but from now on if something seems out of norm. that will be the first thing I check. I did reroute the air intake to the skimmer outside the compartment to get better air supply, it was down in the sump and not any real air flow.
I started using the b-ionic today, cal. is at 400, I'll probably try and get it up to around 420 or better and then use kalk to try and maintain. hopfully I'm about to get the bugs worked out. This weekend install the ATO then build the kalk reactor, then maybe I'm finally done for awhile. I know the wife will be happy, she's ready for me to get my head out of the tank for awhile and do some other things.
So hows your tank doing since the move?
I started using the b-ionic today, cal. is at 400, I'll probably try and get it up to around 420 or better and then use kalk to try and maintain. hopfully I'm about to get the bugs worked out. This weekend install the ATO then build the kalk reactor, then maybe I'm finally done for awhile. I know the wife will be happy, she's ready for me to get my head out of the tank for awhile and do some other things.
So hows your tank doing since the move?
wattsupdoc
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Tanks doing great!
Actually, I dont know why I originally posted this in this forum, it's a FOWLR. But plan on having some sponges, gorgs and my new tube anenome. So it just has 4 , 30 watt T8's on it. I might try some other low light softies but dont plan on any really. Hey, my 2 bangaiis wich are in this tank recently bred. So my males now holding.
Must be pretty happy after all the ruckus 'eh?
